Can't say for sure but, check the Audobons(sp???) field giude to herps. they have been introduced to the U.S. in some parts of the states. I think Oklehoma and somewhere on the East coast? the imports usually have that fungus type disease which is highly contagious. Maybe the only luck you'll have is field collection right here in the U.S. I am suprised to hear Bert Langerwerf is not working with this outstanding species. I believe he was always sold out when I tried to aquire some years back. Good luck, Zak,