thanks a bunch. never planned on breeding really. however my male dum stopped eating and the only way i could get him to start again was to get him a girlfriend. not sure how many babies dums usually have but she had 12 babies all good tempered and everything. havent eaten yet but thats due to availability of live feeders. i tried f/t and they wont take even overnight. im not too worried about a pinky or fuzzy doing any damage and i can switch them over to f/t once i get them started eating solid food.