It's all good Nate. I didn't realize this was you by the way (Nate from the northwest, no?) Yeah I do still have that piceus. it's doing well. It escaped on me (don't give them an inch, they'll take a mile) and was gone for 8 days but showed up in the hall way. The report of wild coachwhips eating that much is from someone who I don't personally know, and wouldn't attach his report to my replies, or really hold value to it since I wasn't there, and his "reports" got a lot of grief on another forum that makes me think it not worth mentioning in the first place, so I probably shouldn't have used that as any type of evidence of their habits.