You nailed it. He ended up enabling the enemy. You cant save all the mistreated turtles eather like you said. We can only try to do a good job keeping them and educating the public. I never heard of him breeding anything. Now we have a new Government in Post America that wants us to stop doing just that. "When turtles are outlawed only outlaws will have turtles" * A bumper sticker by Jeff Gee 1987. To the HSUS... When you pry my cold dead hands.... Vic Morgan............pic caption........Breed Asian turtles