I really do think the mods in kingsnake really should post a picture of a dekay's with the caption "this is a dekay's not a garter" on the (What Kind) forum page. I have just been utterly shocked at how many people post pictures of the dekay's thinking it's a garter snake. Does anyone else not roll your eyes every time you open a post titled "what kind of garter is this" to find another Dekay's?