I'm Local to the Durham, NC area and I've had a young pair of aldabs for around a year now. The bigger of the two is about 12in. long. They have done really well for me so far. I can post some pics and information on my setup if you would like. They are really easy to care for at this size. Feel free to email me I'd love to talk with someone in my area that also maintains aldabs. aubrey@hughes.net