Thats good to know that I could get some angel island chucks at least, I'd read that the san esterbans were endangered and so pretty much ruled them out. The angel island chucks are said to have a better temperament than the sans haven’t they? do they get as big as the sans? it would be cool if they did, as a 2ft ish chuck would be awesome and I think they would be great for people who want something bigger but not too big.

Cheers Tom
Martin