Sam, Thanks for posting such a clear and first hand account. I'm sure everyone else in the reptile world wants to know the real story. I havnt checked if you cross posted but he has a lot of fans on several forums like Iguanas, Python, Croks ect. So far its not a "national Exotic animal story" but I'm afraid it could be. You may have helped get the true story out a head of it. Thanks again. I didnt know Bruce but go back to the early eighty's with Tom. I just lost a friend myself this week. You never know when your time is up, it can go in a flash. Vic