and you ment to say BATeaters too! A stripped Bateater would be rare or maybe a first. Also a post card picture of the first one by "The Shed" Porris and Barra-something... I cant spell from the 70's is also VERY rare. They gave it the name Borneo Bateatter. Their fake Latin name would not pass the P.C.test now day's. Info from a oldtime herper. I got to see a pair of twins hatch out of a clutch that I mixed the Vermiculite for a friend of mine on his 12th. attempt in so many years. I used to love getting people to try in I.D. it at the Expos. Their just soooo cool. Vic