Thanks for the infomative reply. I'll get him back on rat pups in a few days. I already have him seperated from the other snakes. We were told he was a variable kingsnake but they like me saw "flaws" in that. I cant make my camera see what I do, under the black and brick red bands / saddles he is grey with tiny black speckles. I think he is a variable X gray-band hybrid. I have a pueblan milk and comparing the 2, they have almost nothing in common. Even the shape of the head is different