Joe, you showed me nothing related to herps in those links. LOL Holy Christ you are loosing it. You have the nerve to question me and call me a know it all. Produce something that shows herps can be taken from the wild here. I will give you a list of the ones that can for you. Bullfrog, green frog and snapping turtle in season with a fishing license. That's it smart @ss. LOL Lay off that peyote my friend.
-----
Steve W.