Thanks, he's even better in person. Actually, he's a 2010, I looked at the wrong cage when I posted. His 'wife' is the 2007 but she's quite a handful to photograph. The Stillwater gene gives them that nice stamped out look & the crumbly gene gives them the red & the size that these guys can attain. I'll post a pic of his kids shortly. One of them is orange instead of red for some reason. Don't know why but I never saw that before.