thank you for the info. is there any bird that stays relitivly small to medium other than cockateils and budgies that is not neceserily cudly but can talk well but not be a complete screamer and will enjoy just being with the family being petted or attended to or relaxing with us? if there is such a bird what is it, how big does it get and how big a cage will it require? i was also interested in all those other parakeets that aren't budgies is there a good sight or book dedicated to them?