Thanks again. Yes, I have that article. I have some good news on the candoia paper. I found out the journal "The Snake" is not being published anymore. I was given an email to a guy in Japan who used to work for them. He is in the process of mailing it right now. He is even covering the postage!. Also, I had been given George Zugs (the author) email. I emailed him and he is also sending me a copy! Not to be greedy, but just in case one got lost I would have a backup on the way. Randy