Thanks-that's about what I thought-it's a typical travelling display-snake cages in an old bus, but his snakes do at least "look" healthy. The guy did clean out a cobra cage(monocled) by hand, with the snake in the cage, while I was there though-how many people on here open their venomous cage in the presence of someone else when they don't know the other persons experience level? I just hope he doesn't get someone here bit and get some new bans made for the effort-I don't have venomous yet, but might get something im a couple years.