These were 2001's I picked up in March of 2003. They were healthy but not big enough to breed yet. I bred them in 2004, the female was at the time about 30"inches. She is pushing 37"inches now.

She isnt as big as the other one I have but still "of size". Maybe I will give her this next year off. Funny, she looks great right now. Not fat, not skinny, just right. Here is pic of her offspring from last year.