Hi, Thanks for the info. With the sump pump one that mentioned does that have to be put into the tank or can it be under the tank? I have heard alot on the undergravel filters more bad than good. Kinda of funny I would be the only one that likes it. I like the idea of it because the water is sucked under the gravel taking all the yuckys with it and up the tubes to the filter to be left in there. I havent had any problems with mine as of yet. But I like all of the information everyone can offer. And I thank you for the ideas. I'm going to be going to check out the other filter you mentioned as well.

Thanks and let me know about that sump pump...