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Hello all,

I recently purchased a pair of CB subadult lacertids sold to me as "Timon lepidus." I picked out what appeared to be a "young pair," only to find that it might have been not only a different subspecies from the rest of the group, but a different species: Timon tangitanus or Timon pater.

Here are the animals I purchased (ignore the species name in the photos)

These are the others in the group-- these appear to be T. lepidus, although I am not completely sure as I have been told they could also be T. pater.

Any input as to the identification of the first pair (T. pater, tangitanus, or young lepidus?), as well as the rest of the group (different subspecies of lepidus?) would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Fabian Aguirre

Hi,

always not easy from Pic of such variable species.
After being somewaht insecure, I ended up thinking all are T. lepidus with the animals on the first Pics either belonging to a population in the intergradation zone of T. lepidus lepidus and T. lepidus nevadensis or beeing a cross between the two. The other lizardfs to me look like T. lepidus lepidus from either France or Portugal.
I admit thet the animals on the first Pic do resembel T. tanganicus to quite some extent. But after all. they look more similar to my male T. lepidus, whose parents were from the aforementioned intergradation zone.

Hope that helps

Ingo

Ingo,

Thanks so much for your reply. After having considered input from various sources, I have settled on the idea that the first pair is more than likely T. tangitanus, T. pater, or even T. tangitanus x pater. I tend to agree with you on the rest, though-- they are probably T. lepidus.

Thanks again,

Fabian