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King and Milk Morphs

FunkyRes Jul 18, 2006 10:06 AM

Is there any decent comprehensive website dedicated to morphs of the California Kingsnake? I know there are a lot, and I also know that sometimes snakes are called one kind of morph when they really don't fit the description of the morph.

A wiki would probably be an excellent way to keep tabs on the morphs (designer, locality, etc.).

I'm also interested in morphs of the Honduran Milksnake.
I've never really been attracted to milk snake subspecies that we get up here in the US (though I love mountain kingsnakes) - but Honduran Milksnakes, even the "regular" pattern/coloration, are very gorgeous. But some of the Honduran morphs I've seen are absolutely stunning (and expensive, but heh - the even the expensive morphs probably cost less than adequate caging, food, and parasite checks for a year).

Is there a comprehensive page describing the various honduran morphs, and the genetics behind them? (I understand some morphs are combination of other morphs)
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3.0 WC; 0.1 CB L. getula californiae
0.1 CB L. pyromelana pyromelana
0.1 WC; 10 eggs (7/11) Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata

Replies (2)

pweaver Jul 24, 2006 11:51 AM

There are 3 known recessive traits for hondurans: albino, anerythritic, and hypo. Combining these 3 traits can produce double-recessive morphs, namely: ghost (anery hypo), snow (anery albino) and hybino (hypo albino).

In addition, there are 2 color phases for hondurans, tangerine and tricolor. Thus you can have both a hypo tangerine and hypo tricolor that are very different in appearence. The same goes for tangerine and tricolor albinos.

In addition to the known recessive traits, there are also morphs known as Extreme hypos. These are hypos with light gray (not black) bands. It's currently unknown if this trait is recessive or not. A calico honduran morph exists but has yet to be proven as well.

Photo below is an Extreme Hypo honduran.

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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

adamjeffery Aug 05, 2006 09:40 AM

here is a good site for milksnakes in general
http://milksnakes.com/encyclopedia.htm

and here is a good site for cali king morphs
http://www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com/

and you can check out albino tricolors they are a sponser of the honduran milk forum here on kingsnake. terry has some awesome pics and so does paul weaver of carolina herps
http://www.albinotricolors.com/
http://www.carolinaherps.com/colubrids.html

hope these help on your search
adam
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hybrid breeders association
0.0.32 baby corns
2 leo eggs-due sept
0.1. normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0. snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0. amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.2 normal leo geckos
1.0 blizzard leo gecko
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

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