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Hi just a quick question. Do MHD's grow there horns back after they loose them? Also just wondering what a healthy weight would be for a 13 month old Capra? Both male and female weights please! Thank you much

Rustybeard

I didn’t answer this before because I tot Marcia knew more about this then me.
I don’t think they regenerate horns, however I am not sure?

On a evolution point of view, if these horns are a display (attract females or intimidation) feature, then theirs no is real benefit for them to regenerate.

However should they be an adaptation against predatory, then re-growth should be meaningful.

I think they are ornamental.

Weight is insignificant, it doesn’t mean a thing. I have never weighted any reptiles or eggs in 30 years. I don’t see any reasons? But I am curious as to why you want to weight them? Maybe I am missing something.

Yeah, they don't grow back.

Oh, and Steve,it's "weigh", as in "to weigh". Not weight. Weight is a noun, not a verb.

I have two males, both lost their horns(not under my care and haven't grown back.
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Ryan

Sorry this is one English word that I can’t seem to grasp.
Weight is not the same as weigh? What those it mean?

My friend Mark Oshea keeps correcting my English, now if you all do this I will have no excuse in no time.
rgds

When you WEIGH something, the number you get is its WEIGHT. Or, how much it weighs.
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Ryan

Yep, never seen a horn or a spine grow back. Would be nice if they did but then it doesn't really matter except for in looks.

I have had a busy day, new dealer moving in wants our back room, big, big space, and we have to move a lot of stuff out so he can move in. That and the normal customers and running my batch reports so I can pay all my dealers & consigners. It all takes time and I am still at the shop and my dear hubby just buzzed me on the IM to beg me to please come home so gotta go!

Yea, the verb vs noun thing can be strange. I never could understand anything but English. My teachers all told me that was because I had to learn English grammer first and I wasn't so great at that as a kid!
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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
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Ok the main reason that I would like to know a healthy weight for these Capra's is: 1. When we bought them they looked and still look pretty under weight. 2. we can see their hip bones quite clearly, now I am no expert on MHD's but I do know that if my Beardies or leopards were like that I would be concerned. 3. The main reason that I weigh my reptile's is to keep a healthy record IE. one week they weigh 60 grams and a couple of weeks down the road they weigh 45 grams. This would let me know that something is extremely wrong with them or with something I am doing so I can try my best to correct the problem!

I treat my reptiles like they are my children. And just like small children they get weighed periodicly to keep track of their health and growth rate.

Just thought I would let you know why I weigh them!

Rustybeard

Your question is impossible to answer, different husbandry produces different results, these are same age females, one was raise on crickets alone the other mealworms only, they are both in excellent health, but one is 3 times the size.

If such variation can be in one clothe imagine from one keeper to an other, my 12 month olds can be much larger then others 12 month old.

But this is not all, add the cycling of females, they can store fat bodies that will change all your data, if that wasn’t enough these lizards can hydrate a significant amount of water in one day and lose more the next, this will throw you in a loop.
That’s what I think?

But aren’t your dragons WC imports? Theirs no way of knowing how old they are!

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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
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I understand your reason for weighing your animals too. I don't weight mine either though and the reason is that there is just so much variation from one to the next. Also huge variation in weight depending on off feed while shedding, have they just soaked, are they gravid or breeding, many, many variables.

As for the hip bones, these are very slendar reptiles and the hip bones will alway protrude, no two ways about it. If they don't show then your animal will be very obese.

Instead, look at the thighs. They will be nicely filled out rather than thin. They have very muscular thighs and use them for making nice long leaps and for jumping from the ground to the branches above. I have observed this with my babies. It is absolutely amaising how far and how high they can leap!

Anyway, scroll down through some of the old posts and look for ones that have the image tag or on my posts ones that say in the title that they have picture as I don't use the Kingsnake photo hosting and look at some of our animals. You will see the scrawny think hip area with the little pointy hip bones. In fact, if you look at my Very Gravid Armatas post you can clearly see them in the second photo.

Hope this answers why we don't weigh. Not saying you shouldn't if you feel it helps you.

I just can't give you a good answer!
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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
www.froggieb.com/MHDHome.html