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jobi Nov 03, 2006 04:24 AM

Dung fly’s may be a problem with acanthosaura keeping, they appear to be particularly attracted to acanthosaura faeces, the high moisture of our cages allows them to proliferate rapidly, close observation will yield many larva’s, these are feeding on faeces and decaying matters, they become parasites vector, ours lizards, especially babies will eventually ingest them along with preys, they can also be infected by larva’s while laying on the floor, iv seen larva’s around eyes and cloacae, causing secondary infections, adults don’t seem to be affected as much.

Dung fly’s are smaller then fruit flies, I don’t know how they get in our cages, but I am told they occur all over America, so you may have them in your collection?

They are not a big problem and can easily be controlled, at first I was changing the substrate weekly, works good but not practical. I also tried to let the substrate dry once a week, this also worked well, but often I forget.
Now I simply tie a glue trap on the ceiling of my enclosures, I place it so that lizards cant reach the trap, this seem to really work, few days and I cant see anymore fly’s, it will take a few weeks for my baby lizards to come back to normal, show appetite and colors.

Sorry if this is rudimental, but I have other things to do, and not particularly interested with this situation, however I feel knowing this can help your lizards.

Rgds

Replies (8)

damnitbonnie Nov 03, 2006 06:35 AM

I've had some of these small flys but thought they were fruit flies from the crestie cage. Thank you for the information. I have some sticky traps and will use them.
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BONNIE

froggieb Nov 03, 2006 08:28 AM

One word of advice, if any of your pets should ever get close enough to get caught in the trap cooking oil will release them. It will take a little work and time but does the job nicely. This is very tramatic however. I'm sure it is equally tramatic for the animal!
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ingo Nov 04, 2006 03:55 PM

Talking about flies from the family Phorodae?
These can harm egggs and I have lost quite some clutches due ti their presence. A few fly eggs taken out of the tank together with th elizard eggs suffice. If you do not control the eggs frequently, you can loose whole clutches.

A colony of Alphitobius diaperinus in the tank helps. The beetle larvae may as well harm the eggs, but not as quickly and Alphitobius eggs typically do not adhere to reptile eggs and thus eggs can be removed safely.

Best regards

Ingo

ingo Nov 04, 2006 03:56 PM

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Shane_R Nov 05, 2006 11:30 AM

I only have a dozen or so Acanthosaura/Gonos but in the same room 100 tropical geckos. I have a phorid fly problem and do use the sticky traps all over the place. One thing that has worked for the eggs is using tape on large holes in incubation container, then pin holing the tape to keep the small flys out. One other pest is a small spider that can be very prolific around these flys. It has a nasty bite and can bite your lizards.
As for the flys I do agree with Jobi on these being able to spread disease just as mites can.
I would recomend many sticky traps outside the cage, if inside in tubes smaller than lizards head and clean all cages once a week.

Ingo Nov 06, 2006 02:06 AM

Your Spider should be a Steatoda species.
I also have problems with these from time to time.
By chance I cam aacros teh fact that Steatoda is heavily preyed on by Pholcus phalangioides. Introduction of the Pholcus spider in a herp room can significantly reduce the number of Steatoda and the Pholcus do not hatrm the lizards.
Last not least, Pholcus specimens do not hide and are easily removed if you do not want them anymore.

Best regards

Ingo

damnitbonnie Nov 07, 2006 07:02 AM

Marilyn's last clutch had those small white larva on them. They only seemed to be on the infertile eggs. I have never seen these in any of my tanks but obviously something is in there.
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BONNIE

jobi Nov 07, 2006 08:48 AM

same here bad eggs atract them.

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