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Ok well shes only 3 inches long and wide and about 7 months old she gets a small mouse every wedsday and a few feeder fish on sundays...should I lower this/.....I basically have no acess to bugs too cold so no option really..but anyway at a year i was going to switch to once a week alternate between mice and gfish then at 18 months go to every 2 weeks is this a good schwedule could I cut to once a week now?? thanks
Mike

ps: MY frog has become very ugly and brown i dont like ti how do I get the green to come out in her?

any help please

Feed it crickets. Too many mice feedings and your frog won't live as long as it could. Mice are fatty and the frog will have health problems. I feed mine crickets and mealworms as the staple diet. I supplement with a very small mouse once or twice a year, and only the fullgrown frogs get mice.

Contrary to the popular opinion mice are not "high" in lipids and fats particuarly if you are comparing them to crickets and other commercial feeders. They are pretty much the same on a kcal basis (which is how diets are calculated out). They're are multiple cases of corneal lipidosis occuring in anurans that have only ever been fed invertebrates.
The problem comes into play with fact that rodents are much more nutritionally dense than crickets and people tend to overfeed the frogs. For example a pink mouse the same size as an adult cricket weighs the same as an 3-4 adult crickets...

Goldfish are not recommended as a staple due to thier high cholesterol content.

Ed

if she is eating, like stated get crickets, also you NEED to dust them and anything you feed really with herptivite and rep cal with vit D3. gut loaded crickets are ideal, but with the dusting your frog will get the vitamins and calcium it needs to grow bones and maintain good health. feeding mice should be once a month as a treat. wax worms work well to help get some mass back to your frog but you really need the dusting. http://www.azdr.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=4

you will not find it any cheaper than that, and amanda and greg are breeders, not of horned frogs but darts, but still need the same nutrition. you can also order crickets online if its a problem for you, but crickets should be the staple diet of your pacman frog. GL

IVe waiting for 3 days and both of the replies respinded what i said not to do!!! IM not trying to be mean or harsh But as I said I have no way to get bugs and no offenese to all you pacman lovers but I have one frog and I am not ordering bugs and having them in my house somewhere......I have a redtail boa and a anaconda to wotrry about I cant put all my effort in into my frog...dont get me wrog I love her and I think i take care of her well buty I cant feed anything but mice and fish....what I WAS asking is is a small mouse and a few fish good a week for now and thens witchting to once a week at a year old?? thanks for the help anyway
Mike

then you shouldnt have the frog, your lack of planning does not constitute a emergency for everyone else. SMALL AMPHIBIANS USE CRICKETS AND FRUIT FLYS FOR STAPLE FOOD. research, google is your friend.

Feeding your horned frog mice and fish is perfectly fine. Yes thats right, you can feed mice and fish. I can hardly get my frog to eat bugs, he will occasionally take crickets and superworms, but usually just lets them pass by. I feed my frog an adult mouse every 2 or 3 weeks. When people say "Mice are too fatty" they don't realize that crickets, mealworms, and waxworms are fatty too. The problem with feeding mice is that it takes the frog longer to digest all the bones and organs and stuff in a mouse than it does to digest a soft bodied insect. So.....you just have to space the feeding out more, so a mouse every 2 weeks or so will keep your frog healthy and not obese or blinded by lipidosis >.

My frog eating a mouse =P

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I've heard that goldfish aren't the best kind of fish to feed your frog, go with minnows, mollies, tuffies, live bearing fish in general. Horned frogs are vertebrate eaters naturally in the wild, they eat mostly rodents and other frogs.

Wow that frog is obese. Looks like too much mice. A horned frog should not be wider than it is long. If it is, then it is obese.
And mice are probably 50 times more fatty than a cricket ever could be.

LMAO gotta love the advise here.

Lol lol lol, you think my frog is obese?? In that pic he had just eaten a large mouse, hence the reason he looks big. He is 4.5 inches by 4.5 inches, which is perfectly healthy for a pacman. Either your frog is underfed or still small, I don't know....

But If you want to see an OBESE frog, take a look....

Yeah that frog is something more than obese. Saying it is obese just doesn't do it justice. I have 6 horned frogs. 4 adults and 2 juveniles, looking into getting more, because I just can't get them to breed, even when injecting them with hormones!