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Babies on Pinkies??

blup Dec 12, 2006 06:45 PM

i read on site, where it said that froglets should be started out on pinkies? is that correct

and i also just read that an 06 frog was on small rats

i have 3 pacmans. one i've had for a year, he stopped eating for me around 3 months ago, and i recently bought 2 baby pacmans. i fed them some meal worms (5-6 each), about a week and a half, and now they're refusing, are they just full?

Replies (6)

CanadianFrog Dec 13, 2006 02:09 PM

I only feed mine arthropods and annelids until they are full grown. Then they get one mouse every few months. The reason they say to feed baby horned frogs mice is because they are vulnerable to MBD which is brought about by a lack of calcium, vitamin D3 and a few other trace substances in the diet. If, however, you dust the invertebrate food items you should be fine. There are a million different ways you can care for your horned frog, just like any other pet. And every one of them is probably equally acceptable, as long as you feed it and don't neglect it.

EdK Dec 13, 2006 08:20 PM

snip "i read on site, where it said that froglets should be started out on pinkies? is that correct "endsnip

Pinks are a food source that they can be started on but you have to be careful of the frequency at which they are fed as they are very nutrient dense.
You maybe better off using livebearers or rosey reds to feed them as these are typically a better food source and are not quite as nutrient dense. If you are going to use pinks then you still should supplement with D3 as some commercial rodent chows contain excess amounts of vitamin A as retinol which is then stored in the fat and potentially could disrupt the calcium metabolism causing a form of MBD. You should also feed the pinks much less frequently (which is temperature dependent)..
The end size of the adult will depend on the amount of growth that occurs before the frog reaches sexual maturity (this is one reason why males are smaller as they mature more quickly).

snip "i have 3 pacmans. one i've had for a year, he stopped eating for me around 3 months ago,"endsnip

Adults can go off feed. However depending on the care its also possible its due to an impaction or other cause...

snip "and i recently bought 2 baby pacmans. i fed them some meal worms (5-6 each), about a week and a half, and now they're refusing, are they just full?"endsnip

They could be...

Ed

PhunkeyPhish Dec 13, 2006 08:23 PM

np

EdK Dec 15, 2006 09:46 AM

Typically maximal adult length is between 12 and 18 months but depending on growth they can mature earlier. I had males calling as early as 7-8 months if I remember correctly. (this is also temperature dependent and I allowed my frogs to cycle with the seasons from a low of 68 F to a high of about 84 F).

Ed

blup Dec 14, 2006 04:43 PM

i do have some d3 dust

my question is, are pinkies too large to feed froglets, cos pinkies seem to be too big for them

EdK Dec 15, 2006 09:49 AM

Pinkies come in different sizes (as all baby mice without fur are pinks and new born pinks are significantly smaller than pinks that are several days old )as do froglets. I wouldn't offer a newly metamorphed horned frogs pinks (but would use fish) but I also wouldn't offer a really large pink to a smallish froglet. You need to be able to judge the size of the pink to the froglet.

Ed

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