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Breeding ? on VBB's

Wrathraptor Jan 07, 2007 01:30 AM

Presently I own 2 male and 1 female Vietnamese Blue Beauties. Well on New Year's Day, I observed mating between my smaller male and the female. They remained joined for more than 4 hours. My question is, what is a typical clutch size for VBB's, given my female is ~9ft long and of excellent weight? And what's a good temperature to incubate the eggs, as I was considering at ~80 degrees farenheit?
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Replies (6)

WrathRaptor Jan 07, 2007 11:00 PM

I have to make a correction. Just tonight my "definite" male VBB was observed mating with what I was told was another male VBB. So, as it turns out, my other male is actually a female. So much for listening to professionals.
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nydon Jan 08, 2007 06:34 AM

from what you have described, you have all three snakes together. If this is the case, it would not be unusual for two males to "breed". That is why snakes can be "tricked" into hybridizing. Once the male gets wind of that females pheromones, they are willing to "do" anything that moves. Much like human males ¤¡¤¡¤¡¤¡ . It does not mean that it is not a female either. Of course eggs would be a good indicator that it is in fact a female.

Thanks, Don

telefrag Jan 08, 2007 11:00 PM

I had as many as 15 in a clutch when I was working with them.

the eggs were large, and I made extra sure to beef up humidity for the eggs (without being wet)since at the time it was thought that the egg shells were much harder than typical taeniura eggs, and presented problems with pipping.
The extra humidity seemed to "soften" the shells.
looking back, im not sure if that was the real situation or not, but it worked for me, I had 95 and 100% hatch rates the two times I got fertile eggs.

I incubated at 82 and they hatched right around 60 days.

that was almost 10 years ago, so my memory is sort of shaky.

Also, brings me to something else.

They are not from Vietnam, more like Thailand and Burma.

most people mislabel them.
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Wrathraptor Jan 09, 2007 07:22 PM

Thanks for the info. It helps me a lot. Do you remember offhand how large your snakes were? And can anyone verify the scientific name for me. I've come across both Elaphe taeniura ssp. and Orthiophus/Orthiophis taeniuras grabowski/grabowskyi? I'm just wondering which is the correct name. And thanks again for the info guys.
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telefrag Jan 10, 2007 12:49 AM

as far as I know they are still O.t.ssp, and to my knowledge there are no grawbowski in the US at the moment.

My female was just over 7ft when she bred the first time (3yrs) and my male was just over 6ft (3yrs also)

Wrathraptor Jan 10, 2007 04:33 PM

Thanks again telefrag.
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