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New AZ home...(pics)

ratsnakehaven Jan 17, 2007 08:38 PM

Not as exotic as a home in South Korea or Taiwan, but thought I'd share a few pics of our new home in southern Arizona. Habitat is high desert. Located about 15 miles from the Santa Rita Mtns.

A view out the window...

A view of the pool...

The desert around us...

A little peek at the mountains...

Not exactly the best pictures, but my wife took them with a cheapo camera she picked up while she was down there last week. We should be heading down in February for a short visit.

TC
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Replies (16)

ratsnakehaven Jan 17, 2007 08:54 PM

Well, I better throw in a few pics of snakes from the area to make my post a little more on topic. FYI, I consider all the Lampropeltines and Elaphines, North American ratsnakes, so these are ratsnakes in my eyes...LOL!

Green rat from last summer...

Little gopher snake from just outside our back door...

Mountain king from the Santa Ritas...

Desert king from the river floodplain about 1/2 mile away...

Our yard has produced quite a few herps, including Sonoran gophers, rattlers, and longnose snakes. Great to have herps so close.

Cheers...Terry

tbrock Jan 17, 2007 09:47 PM

Nice place ya got there, Terry! I also like the lampropeltines, especially the S. triaspis.

-Toby

ratsnakehaven Jan 18, 2007 04:56 AM

>>Nice place ya got there, Terry! I also like the lampropeltines, especially the S. triaspis.
>>
>>-Toby

Thanks, Toby. Can't wait to study them, up close and personal.

Terry

nydon Jan 17, 2007 10:45 PM

terry, very nice. Looks like you will be having a blast there. Makes me miss my jaunts to west texas searching for alterna.

Love to see some pics of any sonorans you find. I have most of the Pituophus sp./ssp represented in my collection but always seem to miss out on the sonorans (or i am too picky cus i want a normal and an amel with lots of good contrasting red).

thanks for the pics. I have been strapped for time so have not uploaded any new picks but here is a non topic related pic of my male mcrae. He is puppy tame (although the pic doesn't look like it but he is just yawning).

Thanks again for your pics.

Don

ratsnakehaven Jan 18, 2007 04:49 AM

Hi, Don.

Don't really see that many gophers, alive, but see the occasional one. I'll try to find some pics I took in the past. Here's another of the one from our patio last summer...

That's a neat lizard you got there. We sometimes see a related type of lizard in AZ...

Don't mean to dwell on these types of creatures. Just giving an idea of the inhabitants near our homes. Gotta run...

TC

nydon Jan 18, 2007 06:00 AM

terry, you just totally made my day with those pics. If i ever get my reptile park off the ground I am for sure getting me a nice group of Gilas. Absolutely love them.

About 20 years ago i was visiting Buzz Ross in west texas and he had some running around loose in his herp room. My wife sat down in an easy chair and buzz told her to be careful because the gilas liked to sleep under the cushion. She laughed until she realized he was serious. ...She stood up real fast!

About an hour later she came out to the RV crying and holding her hand....blood streaming from it. I asked her what bit her but all she did is cry. (all i could think of was Gila) When I finally got it out of her, she wimpered... a frog! Buzz had some big huge rat eating pixie frogs in a feed trough in front of his house and she was petting one and it turned around and nailed her. We still get a good laugh out of that one. Anyway, thanks for the pics.

Don

ratsnakehaven Jan 18, 2007 07:28 PM

I don't know if you're homesick or anything, Don, but that's sure a funny story. I can't believe how many folks know Buzz. Probably everyone familiar with West TX knows him.

I can't wait to move down south. Not only is the climate going to be great, and the hunting, but it's going to be so cool being around herpers all the time. West Texas is going to be fun. Can't wait to see it in person. I'm going to like looking for more of these...

...but there's lots more great stuff there I'll be looking for too, such as the other ratsnakes, milks, a couple mtn. rattlers, etc.

Great life, eh? Terry

nydon Jan 20, 2007 02:47 AM

Terry, Like that sweetbox song....life is cool (especially when your a herper). I have a million stories about hunting west texas. Every night was an adventure and you get to hang around with such a crazy mix of characters. I guess when you take a group of people from all walks of life, rich and poor, young and old, but all with a common interest and mix them all up on the back roads of texas, you can't help but to have an experience that will always be remembered. Remind me to relay a story about a C. scutulatus I found one night (I will save it for a later time).

I would love to make it back there to visit guys like Buzz and Ron and marylin Tremper and some of the other guys I used to enjoy BSing with but I have so many things going on in my life right now it will probably not happen any time soon. I guess that is where this forum will act as a replacement. Seems like some very cool guys on it and now you can make that W. Texas jaunt and relay the stories for me to enjoy.

If you ever see Buzz ask him if he remembers me. I do not think he can forget, it was his first time "road cruising" in an RV. He thought I was crazy but after he did it he thought it was great. Not only do you get to travel in style (don't have to stop to go to the bathroom or make a cup of coffee) but sitting way up high in an RV you get such a great view of the cuts.

Anyway, got some trinkets in yesterday in a shipment from the US. Have you ever kept them? I have had them before but always sold them before they got any size to them. I am thinking of keeping a pair back. I also have an amel trinket i got last month so maybe i will keep a trio. I love their threat display.

Gotta run now,

Thanks, Don

jfirneno Jan 20, 2007 07:18 AM

Don:
If you can post a photo of the amel trinket it may help answer a question that's been going around here.

There was a photo in a ratsnake book a while ago that had a trinket that was extemely yellow but had normal eyes. I've always wondered if it was a hypo, others said it was an amel and others even figured it was a fake photo. Maybe your animal will have some bearing on that discussion.
Best regards
John

nydon Jan 20, 2007 09:26 PM

sorry but the debate will go on as i made an erroneous statement. I was tired (of course even when i am not tired i often confuse the two). My amel is not a helena but a radiated rat. I took pics but they are fairly common so probably not of interest. The trinkets i got in (4 in all) were 2 normals and 2 high yellow. Now to me the high yellow looks like any other trinkets but as they are babies, perhaps their color will come out and is based on their parents color. I am holding the high yellows back anyway so we will see what they turn into. I took some pics of them as well and when i get some time will post them. If there is not an amel trinket out there i would be surprised if there is not one soon. I would think that if nothing else someone will use a radiated to introduce the amel gene into the trinkets.

Last month i got a pakistan jeweled rat (first one i have ever had). Anyone have experience with them? I know they go through an awesome color change as adults and am looking forward to that. I like snakes who go through that color/pattern change.

gotta run, thanks,
Don

jfirneno Jan 20, 2007 10:16 PM

I'm a big fan of high-yellow anything! I'd definitely like to see any photos of them you take.

Yeah, someone will frankenstein the radiata gene into the helena (and all the other Coelognathus) one of these days.

I've never worked with the Spalerosophis. I've heard they are feisty. I've seen some nice looking photos.

Finally got a sprinkling of snow here. Pretty wimpy by New England standards (but much more to my taste).

Best regards
John

ratsnakehaven Jan 21, 2007 06:56 PM

>>Last month i got a pakistan jeweled rat (first one i have ever had). Anyone have experience with them? I know they go through an awesome color change as adults and am looking forward to that. I like snakes who go through that color/pattern change.
>>
>>gotta run, thanks,
>>Don

Don,

I don't have any experience with these guys, Royal Diadem Rats, Spalerosophis atriceps, but I do know they are a racer-like ratsnake. I think they are from dry places in Pakistan. Not sure about other locations. I know they get very beautiful when adults. Here's a pic from Jim Kavney's site...

Jim used to breed them along with many other species. Check it out using the link below.

Cheers....TC

Hiss-n-Things

ratsnakehaven Jan 20, 2007 09:17 PM

Lot of cool experiences, I know what ya mean. I have lots of memories of my army days, especially in Thailand. I still keep in touch with a couple of the guys. Most of my field experiences are in Michigan and Ohio now, with a few down in AZ and TX. Can't talk about this stuff too much on this forum, 'cus this is supposed to be about ratsnakes, but we'll get around to it one of these days, maybe on another forum.

I like AZ a lot because so many herpers make it down there and it's fun meeting up with folks, BSing, and going road cruising together. Never know exactly what you're going to see, but it's always a thrill when something new can pop up, there's a great sunset, and the weather is usually pretty nice.

If I see Buzz I'll let him know I've talked to you. Actually, I know a few herpers that do see him fairly often. I've never been to West TX before, but plan to go in 2008 and probably every year after that. Can't see missing that kind of an event..heheh!

Herping in an RV? That's unique. I like a four wheel SUV or truck, with lots of ground clearance, room in the back for gear, coolers, etc, and a sign on the back that says, "I'm not an illegal alien."

Trinkets are pretty cool, although they are somewhat of a racer, or racer/ratsnake. They are in the Coelognathus genus now. I bring it up because the ones I had I only kept for a couple years. I've kept the species that were most like N. A. ratsnakes, for the most part, and ones which made the best pets. I just haven't had room or time for the dozens of species I've gone through. I thought the trinkets were very interesting and would have made a great captive for the right person.

That albino trinket sounds nice. I know that would be very well received over here in the U. S.

Talk more later....TC

dinodon Jan 17, 2007 10:01 PM

Very nice, I lived in a semi desert in South Africa for two years. The AZ desert looks like a wonderland, very exotic looking to me.

ratsnakehaven Jan 18, 2007 04:54 AM

>>Very nice, I lived in a semi desert in South Africa for two years. The AZ desert looks like a wonderland, very exotic looking to me.

Yeah, it's very different to me too, but most folks on these forums have seen these types of animals before, along with their habitats. They would be more interested in the Asian environments they've never seen and some of the many different ratsnakes over there.

Thanks...TC

jfirneno Jan 18, 2007 10:40 AM

Best of luck on your new home.

John

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