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All right, I hear that these particular frogs are harder to keep than cranwelli or ornata... Why is this so? Is this just novice error blown out of proportion/misconceptions or is there actually some difficulty to it. I was warned not to keep darts because they are so "difficult" yet I personally think that keeping them is extremely easy if not one of the easiest groups of animals to keep considering if you set them up correctly the first time(proper humidity holding enclosure, proper ratios of frogs and/or species compatibility) then all you basically have to do is mist every few days(or have an automatic rain system for big ballers-just kidding) and feed them every few days.

On the important side of things, I want a C. Cornuta, but I have not found any for sale on this particular site's classifieds and I would also like some specific keeping information from those that have kept them successfully, Thanks in advance.

Here is my C. cornuta about a year ago. I have always kept him at 80deg and 80% humidity. That paired with a varied diet has produced a healthy cornuta.

Here is a more recent picture, it was taken around 6 months ago.

Can I just use a water heater in standing water to accomplish the heating/humidity aspect of this frog while making some sort of island of corkbark so that the frog can escape the water? I think floating java moss and fern would really make the enclosure look natural especially after it attaches to the corkbark and covers the water.... If this stuff is accidentally ingested by the frog during feeding, it would be harmless... I would think as long as the frog was unable to contact the heater then all would be well.
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1.1 Chocolate Leucomelas
2.0.2 green and bronze auratus
0.0.1 D. truncatus.
3.2 K. Maculata
0.0.1 blue white's tree frog
0.0.1 birdpoo mossy frog

I think adding a pothos clipping stabbed into the corkbark would also look great and provide adequate cover as it roots quickly and grows rather fast.
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1.1 Chocolate Leucomelas
2.0.2 green and bronze auratus
0.0.1 D. truncatus.
3.2 K. Maculata
0.0.1 blue white's tree frog
0.0.1 birdpoo mossy frog

I have tried several "natural" enclosures for my horned frogs over the years but I think the success I've had with this particular cornuta has something to do with how sanitary I can keep his enclosure. A very basic coconut fiber/ water dish/ fake plants-setup has worked very well for me.
Natural setups look better at first but a big horned frog will uproot your plants and totally destroy the setup trying to find a place to hide. The other concern with a totally natural setup is how can you clean it so the frog isn't sitting in its own filth? For those reasons I prefer a basic setup that is easy to maintain. If you have an idea that you think might work out by all means try it. This is just my opinion on the matter.

I'm surprised that you consider coconut fiber to be "sterile" as it rots quickly when exposed to a constantly damp situation without much ventilation similarly to peat mixed substrates. I would think that a water based enclosure with an overflow setup similar to a saltwater tank would work best as it would constantly replentish the area that the frog sits with newer cleaner water from a filtered sump that pumps water back up to the enclosure the frog sits in(and across the cork bark and attached pothos so that the water isn't so turbulent for the frog) so that the frog isn't force to constantly sit in filth. I also think that floating java moss in the frogs enclosure would help knock out nitrates too as well as provide a good cover for it. If the frog desire to get out of standing water then it could easily climb onto the corkbark section and since the pothos is rooted to the corkbark and not in soil, then there would be minimal risk of uprooting. Sorry for the novel, but that's my idea on an easily maintained yet naturalistic and functional enclosure.
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1.1 Chocolate Leucomelas
2.0.2 green and bronze auratus
0.0.1 D. truncatus.
3.2 K. Maculata
0.0.1 blue white's tree frog
0.0.1 birdpoo mossy frog

while that sounds good and all, these frogs like to burrow themselfs for several reasons. they are not aquadic animals, they enjoy sitting in water some, but mine seem to sit there for a couple hrs maybe take a dump and move on. i would think that would be stressful and not much like home. coco seems to hold up great for a month at a time with no issues as of yet, so as long as you clean your tanks i dont see the problem with it.

With the use of coco fiber, is it safe to use a gravel false bottom then? If the water can't drain then it will cause the coco fiber to rot pretty quick from what I've seen... Does the substrate need to be very wet most of the time or does the water dish accomplish that?
Are these frogs stressed by moving water at all?
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1.1 Chocolate Leucomelas
2.0.2 green and bronze auratus
0.0.1 D. truncatus.
3.2 K. Maculata
0.0.1 blue white's tree frog
0.0.1 birdpoo mossy frog

The Suriname horned frog is the least commercially viable species. They are not often produced by the large breeders in a pure form but hybridized to produce fantasy frogs.
The reputation for difficulty in keeping this species comes from the often imported animals that fail to survive. It can be very difficult to acclimate this species. On the other hand, the cbb babies of this species are no more difficult than the commonly offered C. cranwelli. They are also not genetically dilluted like the ornata and cranwelli. You may not see them avialable for sale right now but this will change in a week or two. I breed these and they are making their way to the market soon.

Interesting. How large do these hybrids get? Are they comparable in size to the ornata?

These are not hybrids. Fantasy frogs are hybrids on this species C. cornuta, crossed with C. cranwelli. These are pure C. cornuta.

i'm not sure if you got my message, but how do you breed the frogs?