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HELP identifying salamander

owen13 Mar 23, 2007 10:19 AM

Found these in 2-6 inches of water under rocks.
They are 2-3 inches long.
The water was cold.
Found in SE Pennsylvania.
There are salamanders in the area so this might be larval stage but I though they were juvenile mudpuppies.
Could they be larvae left over from last year?

Replies (4)

EdK Mar 23, 2007 09:56 PM

Mudpuppies are not native to SE PA.
Depending on where in SE PA you found them they could be a number of species.

Ed

closedcasket88 Mar 26, 2007 12:22 PM

ivae found what looked like them before too
i was looking for crayfish for fishing under rocks after a dam at crum creek reservoir and those guys would dart evrywere whenever i pick up a rock . never got my hands on one but thats exactly what they looked like. i havnt pinpointed what they are either, im not a salamander/newt expert
i live in SE PA this was in media
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0.0.1 Dusky pygmy rattlesnake
1.0 Amelanistic greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Amelanistic Cornsnake
1.1 Everglades Ratsnake
0.1 Greenish ratsnake
1.1 Speckled kingsnake
1.1 stripeless gartersnake
1.0 onestriped northwestern garter
0.1 Oregon Red sided gartersnake
1.1 anoles
0.0.1 tokay gecko
0.1 graceful chamelion
1.0 green iguana
and a bangin @ss drumset

creekcritter Mar 28, 2007 05:26 PM

appear to be Gyrinophilus porpyriticus

batrachos Dec 04, 2007 04:33 PM

The lighter colored, slender animals with rows of dorsal light spots in the first photo are Two-lined Salamander (Eurycea cirrigera or E. bislineata, I'm not sure which occurs in your area)larvae; the larger animals are probably Spring Salamander (Gyrinophilus porphyriticus) larvae. Both of these species have long larval stages.

Mudpuppies (Necturus maculosus) are found in rivers and lakes, not in small streams, and have four toes on each hind foot. Mudpuppy larvae small enough to be confused with those other salamanders have distinctive longitudinal black stripes. They can be found in your area, mainly in tributaries to the Ohio River.

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