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I want a tokay...need some advice!

superdave1781 Jun 10, 2007 08:13 PM

hello all, I need some advice about Tokay Geckos. I have read many online care sheets and found contradictory information. I have many reptiles (11 snakes and 2 skinks) but have never had Tokay Geckos before but I really want one!
Here are my questions:
1) Can I house a single individual in a 10 gal glass cage? If so, would it be good to stand it on its end to give more height?
2) do they need UVA or UVB lighting? I have read both on care sheets; some say they are nocturnal thus don't need UVB, which makes since to me. Many have tried to tell me that my snakes need UVB, which is false, so I don't know which is true about these guys.
3) Can you all give me some misc. tips to keeping them?
Thanks in advance!!
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-David

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
1.0 nornal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 dog (Luke)

Replies (7)

Paradon Jun 11, 2007 10:25 PM

Hello and welcome! First thing first, tokays are very active geckos and in the wild they have quite a bit of territory that they carve out and keep other males out of it. So you will need at least a 20 gallon tall tank for one large tokay. For a couple of them, you will need at least a 29 gallon. I keep my single female tokay in a 29 gallon tall tank, and she is doing great. You might consider getting a 29 gallon, too, if you are getting one because they do quite a bit of walking at night and the extra room will allow for good excercise and better temperature gredient. I think a 29 gallon is definitely better than a 20 gallon. And, yes, you can put the tank on its side so it will stand taller, but I don't do that, so maybe somebody else can advise you on that. When you get the tank, I would situated it on a tall stand to give your the gecko a bit of height to look down. They like it better. For me I keep the cage simple. I put in some bricks for it to climb on and hide in and put plenty crickets in the cage every week before I turn off the light. Be sure to feed your prey insects very well before you feed them to your tokay. I usually feed my crickets crushed good quality dog kibbles to the crickets. You can also use chick mash, or chick start, and tropical fish flakes. All these food are high in protein and are laced with essential vitamins and minerals that the crickets need. They will pass on the nutritient to your tokay. It is essential that you powerfeed such prey items if your tokay is going to survive for years to come. Other food item that have been fed to these guys are live pinky and fuzzy mice. I have never actually fed mine these food, but it is good source of food since it is whole prey items and is rich in protein, vitamins, and minerals, and therefore nutritionally balanced. Becareful, if you fed them too much of these to your tokay because it will become obese. Another important point you ought to know is tokay will not drink from a water dish. So you have to spray all the sides of the enclosure every night before you turn off the light and your tokay will lap up the water from the walls. Another way to give them water, which I do most of the time, is I wait until after I turn off the light for my tokay to come out and then I put a lot of ice on top of the screen right above where she is. When she notices water dripping, she will often walk up the screen and lap up the water from the melting ice. I do this almost every night and my tokay loves the water. For substrate I find newspaper to be the cheapest and easiest to clean. I just take it out the soil newspaper and vaccum up any remain poop and dead cricket debris about once a week. I actually don't handle my tokay during cleaning. I let her stay in the hide and move it around to get all the newspapers out and vaccum the cage. I tried handling her once and she bit be pretty hard, and I started bleeding quite a bit. To tell you truth it didn't hurt that much, but the sight of blood kindda scares me. Anyway, here is a good link to a very good tokay caresheet. Check it out!
http://www.anapsid.org/tokays.html

tokaysrnice Jun 13, 2007 04:08 PM

all good info but tokays do drink out of water dishes, i have witnesed this on several occasions in numerous captive tokays. It is still a good idea to mist them daily.
nate

superdave1781 Jun 14, 2007 09:23 AM

Thank you, both of you, for your responses! I would love to get one, but probably not at this time now...I read many care sheets that said an adult would be fine in a 10 gallon cage. I currently have 2 empty 10 gallons just sitting around, and was excited about being able to fill one of them with such a beautiful gecko. But since you all don't think that's a big enough cage, I'll wait. Again, thanks!
P.S. Any suggestions for reptiles that WOULD do great in a 10 gallon??
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-David

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
1.0 nornal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 dog (Luke)

Paradon Jun 14, 2007 11:39 AM

You can't really get a good temperature gradient in a 10 gallon. If I wanted to housed anything, I'd put it in a 20 gallon, which is long enough to establish a temperature gradient. But if you must, I'd say a single leopard gecko or fat-tailed gecko would nicely in a 10 gallon...if you want a gecko of some sort. Good luck in finding a pet!

cee4 Jun 18, 2007 03:33 PM

Leos are fun and would fit in a 10gal, though bigger is always better in my book.I have tokays and leos and the leos eat out of my hands(something I never would try with my tokays).They do miss on occasion and grab my finger but it doesnt hurt.
I make temp gradients by using a UTH and putting sheets of slate stacked up so it get gradually cooler as they get higher.Kinda like shelving.Though my guys seem to like the heat at the bottom best.That might work well in a ten gallon to give them more room too...sorry to ramble on so much but I do find that my leos are alot of fun.But nothing beats the sheer beauty of a Tokay either.Or hearing them call in the middle of the night(that is super cool).
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jaflores85 Aug 13, 2007 08:26 PM

Pac man frog would be perfect for a 10 gallon. they grow large, are voracious eaters and come in beautiful bright colors. On the downside, they are not active at all. rarely do they move.
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0:1 Pacman
0:1 Rose Hair Tarantula
0:1 Ball Python
0:0:2 Bearded Dragon
1:1 Cat

EVILMORPHGOD Jun 21, 2007 07:11 AM

>>hello all, I need some advice about Tokay Geckos. I have read many online care sheets and found contradictory information. I have many reptiles (11 snakes and 2 skinks) but have never had Tokay Geckos before but I really want one!
>>Here are my questions:
>>1) Can I house a single individual in a 10 gal glass cage? If so, would it be good to stand it on its end to give more height?
>>2) do they need UVA or UVB lighting? I have read both on care sheets; some say they are nocturnal thus don't need UVB, which makes since to me. Many have tried to tell me that my snakes need UVB, which is false, so I don't know which is true about these guys.
>>3) Can you all give me some misc. tips to keeping them?
>>Thanks in advance!!
>>-----
>>-David
>>

A single animal can be housed like that....they do appear to appreciate a coil(20 watt) UV B light. Plenty of places to hide, a deep substrate bed of coco peat and moss on the top help provide humidity. Vary the diet.

Kevin
>>1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
>>1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
>>0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
>>0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
>>1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
>>1.0 nornal corn snake(Cypress)
>>0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
>>0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
>>1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
>>0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
>>1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
>>0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
>>0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
>>1.0 dog (Luke)
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