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Looking for some coachwhips

tokaysrnice Jun 23, 2007 10:33 PM

I'm heading down south for a wedding and have about four days to kill in my two week stay. I'm really interested in photographing some canebrakes, copperheads and maybe some eastern diamonds. I hope to get bit by a few eastern coachwhips and some black racers. and maybe observing some southern pines. any ideas within a couple hours of atlanta would be greatly appreciated

nate

I'm really looking for the coachwhip as they would be a lifer for me and I've never dealt with an angry wild one. I must have blood. Anyone herd of the band "the dwarves"

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tokaysrnice Jun 27, 2007 08:08 PM

so whats the deal people just arn't as helpfull now, I thought that was half the point of posting stuff.

thanks again nate.

Sighthunter Jun 28, 2007 12:46 AM

I guess the problem is that in your post you did not mention where you lived so we do not know what States you will be going through. The second problem is there is not to many of us who know Atlanta well enough to give advice. The third problem is that if we give on line directions to wildlife everyone and their mother will know where the wildlife is.
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tokaysrnice Jun 28, 2007 10:06 AM

I will be in atlanta then head up to indiana so those are the states i'll be in. I've already been talking to someone in kentucky and hopefully will be going to somebodies property where thier are known timbers. Can't you send emails without posting on the board?

Sighthunter Jun 28, 2007 10:40 AM

Here are the basics that should produce more reptiles than you will need. First step is to get a map of the route you plan to take on major roads. The second step is to get a field guide I would suggest “Eastern Snakes by Bartlett” the field guide gives locality of different snakes. I would then make sure the road you chose co-insides with the range maps in the field guide. Then look for lesser roads along the major route you chose. When you drive look for old structured that have fallen down such as old barns, houses and buildings in wooded areas. Since you are posting on the racer forum I will give you a recipe for finding racers. After you find these old fallen down buildings get permission from the land owner usually a house closest to buildings you are interested in. Most people welcome anyone that is willing to give a report on the snakes around their barn. Racers are found under old roof tins and wood, “ trash in general” old carpet is good too. On cloudy or rainy days they will be under stuff during the day. On full sun days they will only be under stuff early morning before sun-up or after sunset and at night since a tin or piece of wood will heat up to hot in full sun. The field guide will give habitat for the herps you will be looking for as well as locality. If you really want to get serious then get a local field guide that has a list of counties for the state you are in, it will show what snake is in what county. You can usually get one from the Wildlife and Parks Department within that State. This information should give you the freedom to go where you choose and get some good pics. Keep in mind the boards and tins you flip are habitat so put um back and any laws you break can give us all a black eye so be responsible. This is how I and most herpers find a target species. Lets say you want a Coachwhip, you get your State field guide and find the center of the range according to the range map and use the above formula…………..Happy Herping……………..Bill


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

tokaysrnice Jun 28, 2007 05:13 PM

when you put it that way i guess thats how i find snakes where ever i go. lol. Is that pic a spilotes or a pseustes? When I'm down there I'm gonna go check out michelle from primareptilia's babies and and have it shipped when i get home! I'm guessing thats a spilotes but what sub is it?

thanks for putting what all fieldherpers do into lamemens terms and i guess i didn't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

Nate

Sighthunter Jun 28, 2007 05:51 PM

Did my best since I myself am not familiar with the states you listed. The snake is a Spilotes captive bred parents from Sula Honduras. Caught these flippin today.


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

tokaysrnice Jun 28, 2007 06:26 PM

sweet glossy its crazy how much they look like gophers.
do you still keep spilotes? I'm really after the solid banded form, am i correct that most of them are from the guatamala region?
Where are you located?

tokaysrnice Jun 28, 2007 06:29 PM

my bad fox snake right?

Sighthunter Jun 28, 2007 07:18 PM

The snake in question is a Emory Rat Snake. Here is a few pictures of Banded Spilotes From Honduras.


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

tokaysrnice Jun 28, 2007 07:52 PM

man the juvie fox snakes look alot like the emorys. do thier distributions overlap at all or is that the way you tell them apart?

are those old pics? some of them i think i've seen before on this forum. again are you still working with them?

Sighthunter Jun 28, 2007 09:03 PM

Spilotes pics are old. Don Bordner has my entire collection. Fix snake does not overlap. The look alike snake out here is prairie king.
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