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Some field pics........................

vichris Jul 01, 2007 05:52 PM

First some snakes. Can anyone ID the one in the hole? I think I know what it is but I'd like to hear some other opinions.

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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

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chrish Jul 01, 2007 11:36 PM

The snake in the hole is a Coachwhip.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

vichris Jul 02, 2007 11:29 AM

Chris,

I was thinking the same thing (A juvie coachwhip) but I've had others ID it as a striped whipsnake. It's for sure some kind of whipsnake. It backed into the hole so I never did get a good ID on it.
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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

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chrish Jul 02, 2007 11:18 PM

I was thinking the same thing (A juvie coachwhip) but I've had others ID it as a striped whipsnake.

The face isn't right for any of the striped whipsnakes. It looks exactly like a flagellum to me. I can't explain why, I just know it is (its a gestalt thing).
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

jasonmc Jul 03, 2007 02:38 AM

I agree , it’s a Coachwhip. Whenever I have to retrieve snakes from under houses and I see that white chin area, it has always been a Coachwhip. I don’t know if they show their chin as an intimidation tactic or what. I just know when I see it, im going to get bitten.
Nice pic and nice find!

Jasonmc

vichris Jul 03, 2007 06:35 PM

I can tell you've handled a few of them. I tried to keep one as a pet when I was a teenager. I got bite EVERY time I handled it.

I'm still not completely convinced its a coachwhip though. The ones out here tend to be the red/orange phase ones and almost all of them have a black head and neck. If I was betting on it though I'd bet it was a coachwhip. I have seen both flagellum and taeniatus in that area. I do see more flagellum but I would guess I see more of them because of the way they carry thier upper body so high above the ground while they hunt. Taeniatus carry their heads high too but not near as high coachwhips do.
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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

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