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How to determine sex of G.chamaeleontinu

angiN Jul 03, 2007 04:20 PM

Can someone tell me how to determine the gender of Gonocephalus chamaeleontinus please. We have several at our shop and I would like to seperate them into pairs, plus I want to choose a pair to keep for myself. Thankyou.
Also I am offering them crickets, locusts, waxworms and mealworms. Does anyone know if they eat snails?
A few photos of some of them-
http://www.britishreptileclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3-1183495935.jpg
http://www.britishreptileclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3-1183496044.jpg
http://www.britishreptileclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3-1183495969.jpg
http://www.britishreptileclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3-1183496082.jpg

Replies (10)

Ingo Jul 04, 2007 12:45 PM

Firs is female, second pic in foreground is male, third is female, but quite likely from Sumatra or a neighbouring island and the last one is male, but has a lot of abbotti features. Interesting animal, either a new locality or maybe even a new species or subspecies.

Best regard

Ingo

angiN Jul 04, 2007 04:30 PM

Hi
Thankyou for your reply.
Does this mean the colourful ones are males and brown ones are females?
We managed to sex two males today by popping them.
I have decided to to hld onto that last male and the possible Sumatran female ( that was before I read what you wrote).

I have set them up in a 3ft high viv today with a basking aea of 92-3F and ambients of 80-85F. Im spraying heavily twice daily as this appears to prompt them to drink - much like chameleons.
I have a 10% UV light in their viv, but have shaded areas incase they choose not to expose themselves. The viv is full of branches and foliage. Also they have a very large shallow water bowl - humidity has been kept high, up to 90% today.

I cannot find a lot of information about them, can you suggest any accurate reading information?

Photos of the male I am keeping
http://www.britishreptileclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3-1183577053.jpg
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angiN Jul 04, 2007 04:41 PM

more photos
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angiN Jul 04, 2007 04:42 PM

last photo of female, how can you tell she is Sumatran?
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jobi Jul 06, 2007 07:41 AM

sumatran are brown!
heres a male sumatran and a male javan.

angiN Jul 09, 2007 03:00 PM

Now I have chosen two pictured just like those two males, the colourful is definately male, but the brown one appears female - we have been unable to prove otherwise by popping hemipenes. Also they both seem much more relaxed and less stressed now they have been seperated, whilst I noticed the other left together look darker in colour to me ( almost blck at times)and appeared slightly stressed ( they have since been seperated.) I put this down to males being kept together.

Ingo Jul 05, 2007 01:36 AM

OK, seeing the front of the sail, its clear, the male is a true chamaeleontinus. and yes: The males are colorful and the females are greyish, bright green or brown, depending on the location. On some Islands, (eg Tioman) males are less brilliantly coloured and do lack the orange but have a more speckled appearance.

Acclimatization period can be critical since these lizards are very stress sensitive. Once acclimatized they can be very hardy.

Ci@o

Ingo

angiN Jul 09, 2007 02:56 PM

Anyone have any tips or timing on incubating these eggs as we have one clutch already?
We are incubating at 78-80F at present.

jobi Jul 09, 2007 03:38 PM

I hatched 14 clutches of chameleomtinus in the last 2 years, they seem to do best when incubated at NTL 75f DTH 85f at these temps they hatch in the 60-70 days range.

tmart57 Feb 12, 2010 01:05 AM

you wouldnt happen to still have some of these for sale would you? or know where i could get them? ive looked everywhere.

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