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Lol!!..Hi you guys..as some of you know its taken me FOREVER to track down a Northern black racer here in England!!..I managed to obtain this little guy last week.As you can see he gave me a good old American greeting!!!...LOL!!!
He's settling in nicely ..a real character!!

Looks like you might have an eastern Coachwhip! Send us a full body shot and chin.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Hey Bill ..that would make my year!!!..but I'm fairly sure hes a northern black racer.I'll get some better photo's soon.These are just a few that I took myself while holding him and protecting myself from his bite... all at the same time!!!..LOL!!

Kind Regards Paul

....If it has a black head that turns into a brown/red body, you have a coachwhip.

If it's all black and has a white chin, it is most likely a northern black racer(or southern...they both look alike).

Just get a shot of his whole body while he's sitting in his cage. Your fingers will thank you!
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Coachwhips are an extremely variable snake and can be all black.
and by the skelatal structure of the head it looks like a coachy to me
Nate

....but i've never seen an all black coachwhip!
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

I wouldn't believe an all black coachy either unti someone posted a pic a couple monthes ago! I believe it was sighthunter

i caught 2 full black shiny coacwhips so trust me they do come in black and there beautiful!

where they at?

...despite my username!
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

When someone see's this they'll be able to tell you for sure. I'm not an expert by no means I'm just going on what "I" think.
Personaly I would be more stoked on an all black coachy more than a black racer!

Cheers,
Nate

The first picture clearly shows a frontal scale as wide as the supraoculars, rather than being distinctly narrower ("bell-shaped". The second one, as far as can be seen, shows seven upper labials. Both features belong to Coluber constrictor.

All the best to every racer/coachwhip lover,

Benjamin

Hi Everyone
I think its because my photos are so rubbish that all the confusion has been caused,however its been very interesting and thanks everyone.Heres another photo from that batch...I promise to put better photos on as soon as my wife or daughters are around to take the shot!!...hes so lighting fast I'm really stuggling to do it on my owm !!!..LOL!!..Cheers Paul

Sorry! that should have read "He's so lightning-fast I'm struggling to take a photo on my own"...LOL!!

I'm sure he's 'Coluber Constictor'...,thanks for your input guys!! ..Paul

yeap after that other pic definatley coluber constrictor. Its harder to take pics when they're not holding still biting you lol! Nate