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An anatomy question for y'all. Do both male and female plated lizards have spurs located on either side of the vent?

Just a curiosity I would like to have cleared up.

First, its not G. nigrolineatus but G. major bottegoi what you have. In thi sspecies it is very difficult, to see differences between female and male pores.So no Sexing possible by this pic.

Ingo

What makes you think this is a G. major bottegoi when all you have is the vent area to look at? I have seen pictures of the G. major bottegoi and though there are similarities - there are distinct differences. Please tell me what makes you say it's one and not the other from what you're looking at.

O.o...I may have to eat my words on the differences. The pictures I had to look at first were not as good as the pictures I've been looking at from a Japanese website who apparently sells these lizards.

I would still like to hear what you have to say about the differences from the pic. I'm saving the link to the Japanese site so I can offer up the differences in look once I get this amazing observation from a vent...;-D

Oh, thats not rocket science and there is no need to be sarcastic. The vent og G. nigrolineatus in all specimens is plain white.

Well , I am keeping the true nigrolineatus since 24 years, which gave me time to verify ID by all means including pholidosis. Also I do see more bottegoi offered as nigrolineatus than trie nigrolineatus. Nigrolineatus in th epet trade are mostly labelled flavigularis and sometimes outrun the true flavigularis in the respective shipment by number. Typically there is a 60/40 chance that an offer of a flavigularis deals in fath with nigrolineatus. And I ´d even say, 80% of nigrolineatus offered in the pet trade are bootegoi.
You relatively rarely see bottegoi or nigrolineatus labelled correctly.....

Btw: Bad pic, but this is G. nigrolienateus, male:http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbumPhoto.asp?shopperid=QRMGKD1B9JGE9JFK7S36FG4QWJJN09W2&userid=Ingo&album_id=48637&image_id=93

Thank you, Ingo!! Has anyone ever told you you're good? And the picture isn't all that bad. It shows the markings well enough. Forgive my ignorance, but explain philidosis? It has something to do with the scales underneath? I haven't found but two sites explaining this - which one was not for public viewing and the other was a PDF that did go into much.

Here is the link for the G.m.bottegoi from the Japanese site I came across:
http://www.remix-net.co.jp/Peponi/Image/2005/5gatu/5.18/pl1.JPG

And the G. nigrolineatus:
http://www.remix-net.co.jp/Peponi/Image/2002/4gatu/4.24/kisuji1.JPG

There is a very definitive white line that goes down either side of the G. nigrolineatus. I can't seem to find a common name for this lizard. Is it because there isn't one?

Here's a full picture of mine:

Please see my response in the plated lizard forum, PrismWolf. I haven't seen a G.m.bottegoi that looked like Lizzy until you posted that picture. I wonder why none of the other pictures I've been finding of them look exactly like him.
I also wonder why there are so many pictures of "black-lined plated lizards" that look just like Lizzy. And then there are many who don't. There was even a dealer on kingsnake recently that had "black lined plated lizards" that looked identical to Lizzy, selling them for $70 or so.
It seems like very few people know what is what.

If I am indeed wrong, and it seems I very well am, I am sincerly sorry for misrepresenting an animal to you. If you would like to return him and the supplies, I will refund your money.
I feel incredibly stupid.
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Ah see...a very nice bottegoi you animal. G. nigrolineatus sometimes is called red sided plated lizards, because of the prominent red flanks of the males. Otherwise it very much resembles G. flavigularis but is slidely bigger, the scales are more keeled and it never has a yellow or orange throat