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So, after about 9th months of owning D. Tinctorius, I believe I was successfully able to sex all four.

The problem here-in, lies that 3 of them seem to be female and 1 male.

Now I knew in advance what I was getting myself into and have two fully established, planted, cycling vivs to keep my Tincs in.

One is 24"x18"x18" and the other is 18"x18"x18"

ATM, all 4 reside together in the larger tank. It's time for this to change.

What would be your recommendations to end up in the "least stressful" pairings. I am considering putting the male (which happens to be the best looking of my frogs) with the largest and most robust female in the 18"x18"x18". Is it safe for the other two females to co-habitate in the larger viv? With it's dimensions, it comes up to roughly 35 gallons. It is densely planted with 4 or 5 planned and spread out hiding spots. Should I be worried about them living in this?
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-Iman

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I think your own suggestion seems the best plan, then just watch those you think are two females for over-aggression. It might not happen in a tank with lots of cover and a generous "foot-print."

I still have a lot of trouble sexing by toe pads and body habitus with the tinc group--Mine are azureus. Even with my proven breeding pair, I sometimes confuse them, and find the toe differences between them to be rather subtle. Other people with more general tinc experience seem to be much more confident, but sometimes when pictures are posted of several frogs with spread out toes, (put up for a sexing vote) there will be some disagreements, so at least I'm not entirely alone with this. Maybe you will luck out and actually have another male in the separated pair.

I raised 4 groups of tadpoles from eggs last summer between June and August--all from my mated pair. As the froglets morphed out, I put them in arbitrary pairs of the same age in 10 gallon nursery tanks. In one tank, the two froglets began to seriously fight after only two months, at the juvenile stage, so I separated one of them into a tank I built and gave to a friend. I told her I thought it was probably a female from the aggression I'd observed, but couldn't be sure. In another instance, I put a lone survivor of an egg batch directly into a 20 gallon hex tank. He quickly developed obvious male characteristics, with very large, distinctive toe pads that even I couldn't miss, and he is now only 6 months old, but as large and more male appearing, body and toe-pad-wise, than his father. So perhaps there are individual differences, (or he found a secret source of steroids.)

Sometimes I think the longer I keep dart frogs, the less I actually know about them. They don't always follow the rules.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

Dendrobates: auratus blue, auratus Ancon Hill, tinctorius azureus, leucomelas. Phyllobates: vittatus, terribilis, lugubris. Epipedobates: anthonyi tricolor pasaje. Ranitomeya fantastica, imitator, reticulata. Adelphobates castaneoticus, galactonotus. Oophagia pumilio Bastimentos. (updated systematic nomenclature)

Thanks for the advice...

Believe it or not but this evening after posting I witnessed my first "agression" from two of the frogs... and at least I know I have 2 females there.

I am pretty certain about the male. He just looks different. Huge front feet, slimmer belly and not as much arching in the back. Clearly a different outline than the 3 others.

Thanks again for tips!
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-Iman

1.1 BRBs (Ying and Yang)
1.1 JCPs (Striker and Sheila)
0.0.2 BPs (Spot and Speck)
0.0.4 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Suriname Cobalts'
0.0.4 Dendrobates Auratus 'Costa Rican Green and Black'
5.5 Fish (Insert your favorite names here)
1.0 Miniature Daschund (Rue)

Loving to Learn
Learning to Help
Helping to Love

Stimulate debates, stifle arguments.
Please be nice always.

something you said reminded of a quote, forget who said it "the more you know, the more you find out you don't know" one of my fav quotes.
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