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so, i've had my sudan for almost a year and decided to try and breed so I bought a pair of sudans. Turns out that ther're both boys and neither of them are sudans. well i've already sent the dealer an angry e-mail for sending them with a heatpack that didn't work(poor things were nearly frozen, but ther're ok now) and I dought he could help identify them anyway. I think they may be black-lined plated lizards, but I only found one picture that looks like them, the picture is on http://exotic-pets.co.uk/image/151/83 does anyone else have this species? now I've got a female sudan and two male black-lined(?)plated lizards. Anyone know if they'll interbreed? any input is appreiciated, thanks.

I found another website with a plated lizard that looks like my two, but it says that its a sudan. heres the website http://www.terrarien-online.de/images/dcfc0769.jpg
let me know what you think they are.

Yup they seem to be Black Lined. We would be able to tell more if you could show pictures of your own plateds.

The pic in your link shows a G. major bottegoi, which is a subspecies of the sudan plated lizard and thus can interbredd with the nominate form

thank-you for responding. I would post pictures, but the only camera that I have is on my cell-phone, and even then, I have no way(that I know of) to post them.When I breed a sudan with a black-lined, what is the result? what would the latin name be?
I know that sudans are Gerrhosaurus major major, and black-lined plateds are Gerrhosaurus major bottegoi.
would it be Gerrhosaurus major major X bottegoi? or would they just be called sudans (gerrhosaurus major)?

I don't think the 2 different sub species will breed. I have got a G Major and a G Major B in the same enclosure and they haven't mated.

Oh, its part of the dfinition of subspecies that they do interbreed. If they can not, they have to be revised as seperate species

Gerrhosaurus nigrolineatus is the Black lined plated lizard.

The animal in those photos was Gerrhosaurus major boettgeri - the East African Plated Lizard, sometimes called the East African Giant Plated Lizard.

Dealers keep labeling these animals wrong.

If one of those bred with the nominate form, the Sudan or Major Plated Lizard, Gerrhosaurus major major, you would produce an intergrade and not a hybrid.

Its probably best to aquire a pair of the same species (of which the East african AND the Sudan are), and the same subspecies, and not keep males together in the same enclosure. In my experiance, when they get comfortable with thier surroundings and beging to attempt to establish territort, they will fight, or one will at least be severly stressed out by the other.