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Which dart frogs tend to be the boldest. The frogs I am looking at are azureus,tinctorius, Leucomelas,auratus,and P.terribilis. This will be my first dart also. I want one that is out and doing stuff
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Steve Irwin you changed the way people look at reptiles forever. Crocodile Hunter you will be missed.

Phyllobates terribilis and Dendrobates leucomelas are about the boldest of the frogs one can keep in a group. Next to them, pairs of tinctorius (incl. azureus) are brave. D. auratus are iffy. Many color morphs and individuals are extremely shy. Some others are apparently not, but all of mine are seldom seen, especially when young. I would eschew them if you want something you can depend upon being out at about all of the time for show and tell. The very best, although more expensive, are the orange or yellow morphs of galactonotus, as well as groups of imitators or intermedius. You can't beat them for entertainment value. The galactonotus border on true intelligence in my experience, and a group of imitators in a proper tall tank with lots of bromes, can be as much fun as an old fashioned Italian ghetto in New York, with everyone hanging out on the balcony in the evening.

These are opinions just from my own experiences, not dogma, of course.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

Dendrobates: auratus blue, auratus Ancon Hill, tinctorius azureus, leucomelas. Phyllobates: vittatus, terribilis, lugubris. Epipedobates: anthonyi tricolor pasaje. Ranitomeya fantastica, imitator, reticulata. Adelphobates castaneoticus, galactonotus. Oophagia pumilio Bastimentos. (updated systematic nomenclature)

Thank you very much Patty. I am leaning towards lecs because I find them the most appealing but terr are a close second. I am going to start with a ten gallon then, eventually make a 30 and a 75. I will post back once I get my frogs
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Steve Irwin you changed the way people look at reptiles forever. Crocodile Hunter you will be missed.

How many lecs should I house in a ten gallon
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Steve Irwin you changed the way people look at reptiles forever. Crocodile Hunter you will be missed.

Two is plenty for a 10. You can add a little space by using wood features and broad branches. Leucs will climb around on these.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

Dendrobates: auratus blue, auratus Ancon Hill, tinctorius azureus, leucomelas. Phyllobates: vittatus, terribilis, lugubris. Epipedobates: anthonyi tricolor pasaje. Ranitomeya fantastica, imitator, reticulata. Adelphobates castaneoticus, galactonotus. Oophagia pumilio Bastimentos. (updated systematic nomenclature)

i built the background so it has some ledges and there will be a branch cluster in their as well with some hides and some plants. Also the wall has a waterfall i built
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Steve Irwin you changed the way people look at reptiles forever. Crocodile Hunter you will be missed.

That sounds good to go. Post some pictures, if you can. One of the best things about the Kingsnake forums is the easy ability to download and post photos. I'd love to see what you're doing with this. It's hard to work with a ten gallon other than just substrate and nursery facilities, but I do have one I'm rather pleased with for a couple of Phyllobates lugubris, so it is quite possible. Share your own inventions and ideas, please. The first photo is of one of the P. lugubrus on a log in the planted tank, next to the water pond, and the second if of the building stage.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

Dendrobates: auratus blue, auratus Ancon Hill, tinctorius azureus, leucomelas. Phyllobates: vittatus, terribilis, lugubris. Epipedobates: anthonyi tricolor pasaje. Ranitomeya fantastica, imitator, reticulata. Adelphobates castaneoticus, galactonotus. Oophagia pumilio Bastimentos. (updated systematic nomenclature)

Patty what is better for the young frogs to eat, to help them grow pin head crickets or fruit fly's?
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Steve Irwin you changed the way people look at reptiles forever. Crocodile Hunter you will be missed.

Either will do, but in my experience, fruit flies are so easy to raise that I only order pinheads a couple of times a year for variety. Unless you have other herps that will take the pinheads as they out-grow the young frogs ability to take them, (barely after 6 days old or so, I think I'd go with the fruit flies. Very young froglets and many of the adult frogs will relish springtails for variety, as well. These are super-easy to raise, as a single culture will last for months in the same container, or you can even pre-lace your vivarium with them to try to get them established in the soil. They will feed on fungi and soil detritus, and are a healthy addition to any humid tank. They can't be dusted with the vitamins and D3, so unless you have a source of UVB, they shouldn't be used as an exclusive food source.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

Dendrobates: auratus blue, auratus Ancon Hill, tinctorius azureus, leucomelas. Phyllobates: vittatus, terribilis, lugubris. Epipedobates: anthonyi tricolor pasaje. Ranitomeya fantastica, imitator, reticulata. Adelphobates castaneoticus, galactonotus. Oophagia pumilio Bastimentos. (updated systematic nomenclature)