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coluber Feb 24, 2008 08:53 AM

Hi guys...yes its far too quite on here!!

This is my Eastern ...I think ???...some better photos coming soon. regards Paul

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Giel Feb 25, 2008 01:45 PM

Nice snake (but that's not fair because its a Masticophis) , How big is he/she?

I'll be sitting and waiting here for the new pictures...

regards

Gilian

DruckerB Feb 27, 2008 08:52 AM

Hi Paul!

No answer yet from any US expert? So I dare telling you my opinion: this guy looks more like a Western. As far as I know, no Eastern can be almost totally lacking dark colour like that.

Incidentally, how about your large whip snakes?

Regards,

Benjamin.

coluber Mar 01, 2008 10:46 AM

Hi Benjamin
Thanks for your reply...this coachwhip was sold as an Eastern,
he certainly is quite differently coloured from my other Westerns,but yes there is no strong 'black' pigment.He may be a 'cross over' type or something??..most of the dark pigment is patchy around the head.Mike has the other 'Eastern' that was sold to us...this really does look like the photo's I have seen of Eastern coachwhips...However mine is still a lovely coachwhip,I'm looking forward to him reaching maturity.

Yes ..the Coluber jugularis have been great ,eating and shedding etc. regularly..however they are very,very shy...only eating when there is nobody around!...I'm giving them a short cooling period at the moment till around the end of March....what a pity they are both males

kind regards Paul

coluber Mar 01, 2008 11:46 AM

Here's a closer shot of his head.

mikean Mar 01, 2008 03:50 PM

Glad you are getting on okay with him Paul.

Yes the snake was sold to us by Glades as an eastern, I'm not sure if it was one they have just aqquired or if they took me up on my suggestion and sent the newest member of staff out to catch some LOL.

It certainly is darker on the head compared to the body and more so than any of the other coachwhips I have which are westerns (barring the new one which is certainly eastern). I will be really gutted if it isn't an eastern though, myself and Paul are really hoping to breed coachwhips.

Paul.... At last the eastern I kept has taken a small item of food on it's own, well i had to put it in the mouth but it ate it at least. The youngish male western and the other dark female are both being gits to feed, though the male is trying to mate but she isn't receptive at the moment. Fingers crossed, the old female is due to shed so with luck Smokey will get the idea, I may swap the males around anyway though to see what happens.

We really need some females quite desperately over here in the Uk now, only have 3 westerns between us and 4 hatchling red westerns.

Mike

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