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Hi all! I'm really new to the frog-loving life, but I don't think I've quite got the hang of things yet. I have a 12 x 12 x 18 enclosure, with frog-friendly plants and pillow moss, which I bought from the frog supplier. I have a WTF, a Vietnam Blue, and a Big Eyed Tree Frog and they all keep their own hiding spots, no one is fighting. I have a full spectrum light on during day hours for the plants.

Problem: I'm not quite sure the Big Eye is eating very well. He hates to be handled, so I've just been tossing in a few crickets just before dark (so they know they're in there), which of course disappear, but probably into the substrate... I've even tried dubia roaches. Food is no bigger than his forehead. The WTF and Blue are keeping their figures, but the Big Eye looks thin to me. I tried "cup feeding" yesterday but all he was worried about was getting out.

Does anyone have any suggestions? The info on the internet is sparce. Please help! Thanks!

umm.. you DO know that all three of those species need to have their own terrariums, right?

especially the whites. as they are known to eat everything and anything that moves..

they may be getting along fine now, but you will be seeing two less frogs in a matter or months..

for now. separate the big eye into his own enclosure. research the temp and humidity needs for that species. and then get him his own tank... he is probably stressed with having to compete with two voracious eating machines who hog all the food..
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Wow, didn't know I'd get that kind of response... Anyway, like I said, I'm new - not stupid - he's still in good condition, just wondering if there was a better way to feed or if there was something they might like more than crickets. There isn't a whole ton of information out there. The breeder I bought them from said they would be fine being that they're all the same size - he's kept them that way with no problems in the same size tank that I have - I've known him for quite a while and he's not out to just sell animals to make money. Anybody else have suggestions? Thanks!
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Well, when I had three Big Eyeds, they all hated being handled, lol. As for the feeding, one of the frogs ate WAY more than the others. They looked thin compared to him.

I know information on Big Eyeds is sparce... Try researching under Tanzanian Tree Frog. That might help.

Good luck.

I also agree that those frogs need to be seperated. They all have different requirements when it come to temp and humidity levels. You are going to end up with dead frogs if you leave them together like that
Also try bowl feeding the crickets will not be able to get out and you will be able to tell if they are eating them or if they are just hiding in the substrate which will lead to more problems than you are already going to have down the road.

The are right. You really really should not mix species. No matter what your friend told you. Different frogs skin can produce different chemicals which might not be poisonous but could be harmful to your other frogs of a different species. Number two, the other frogs could be stressing out the one that is not eating, Number three, someone could get eaten. I have 4 White's tree frogs and I've watched them grab at each other if they move.
I'm not saying that you aren't smart but it's not a smart idea to house those three frogs in the same tank. I'd never risk it.

i have agree with the first response you got. the whites and the blue will grow to be twice the size of the big eye and will eventually try to eat him, they also tend to grow faster than the big eye will. i am not directly fimilar with the care of the blues, but i have had many whites and their appetites are equally as voracious as that of pacman and pixie frogs. they will eat anything, crickets, mealworms, butterworms, earthworms, silkworms, hornworms, rosie reds/small golfish, grasshoppers, small mice, other frogs and even small lizards like house geckos and anoles. it will be best for the health of your big eye if you remove him to his own tank. they do tend to be a more finicky eater and you may have trouble feeding them things other thn crickets and house flies. you should dust the crickets you feed them with a calcium and multi-vitamin powder every three or four feedings, that goes for all of the frogs.

there could be a million different reasons because it doesn't really sound like you are doing anything right. a tank that size will hold ONE whites treefrog, i have two WTF in a 36 gallon tank and would never put more than one more in there. i'm guessing not all of your frogs are cb, and i'm guessing you didn't quarentine them, which means if one frog had any pathogens they all now have them.

wtf are eating machines, don't mix them with anything. you can't always go on one opinion, is this person reputalbe? how do you know? don't you do research before you buy living things? obviously not b/c if you did then you would realize DONT MIX.

sorry if im being harsh but there is no excuse for mixing species. there would have been 50 years ago, but if you picked up a book or did 10 minutes of research you would find out not to mix them.
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also, you said the info on the internet is sparce, what about books? and there is plenty of info on the internet, you just didn't look hard enough.
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RES
WTF
FBT
Russian Tortoise
Hingeback tortoise
Leos
Lawsons Dragon
Aussi
Ocelot Gecko
0.0.3 Vietnamese Mossy Treefrogs
Oregon Newt
Japanese FBN
American Bullfrog
0.0.4 D. tinctorius
D. auratus
D. leucomelas
1.1D. imitator
0.0.2 imitator intermedius
1.1.1D. lamasi
Grandis Day Gecko
Mali Uro
0.0.4 Hourglass Treefrogs
Conehead lizard
Painted Turtle
Hedgehog, bunnies, dog, fish, crawfish...