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Crazy Red...Any thoughts??

jaysitesreptiles Jul 07, 2008 11:10 AM

Found this toad snake hunting (east Ky area)...hes intense red, hypo maybe? I don't know alot about toads. Regardless he's cool!!


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batrachos Jul 07, 2008 11:16 AM

Very nice Anaxyrus americanus! That brick red color is very common in western Kentucky and middle and west Tennessee; it seems to be less common further east. I don't think it's a simple genetic morph, just part of the complex array of colors present in the species. The buggers can change color to a surprising degree in response to loacl conditions as well.

jaysitesreptiles Jul 07, 2008 01:56 PM

Im going with Fowlers's on this guy or a hybrid even. No belly spots and he fits the bill..He did change colors burrowed, still good lookin..

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tspuckler Jul 08, 2008 07:38 AM

It's an American Toad. Fowler's have three or more warts on each dark spot, and that toad only has one wart per dark spot. American Toads can show a considerable amount of color variation.

Tim

Fowler's Toad:
Third Eye
Third Eye

wolfpackh Jul 08, 2008 07:44 AM

When did Bufo become Anaxyrus? Did they really change the name? That toad looks to be an americanus.
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jaysitesreptiles Jul 08, 2008 10:40 AM

I'm going with Hybrid, the stripe and no pattern on its belly, not to mention it makes me half right either way!!! Thanks for the input guys!!(Im notat all qualified to make any ID's) haha
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batrachos Jul 08, 2008 11:22 AM

It's definitely a pure americanus. Americans frequently have unmarked venters and middorsal stripes, at least west of the Appalachian divide. The shape of the parotoids, the arrangement of the cranial crests, and the presence of enlarged tibial warts are all classic americanus characteristics.

Bufo was split up in Frost et al's monumental 2006 paper on amphibian systematics; they divided the New World taxa into three genera. Anaxyrus includes most of the US species; Ollotis includes former B. nebulifer, B. alvarius, and most Mexican/Central American species; and Chaunus (since changed to Rhinella, which had precedence) contains B. marinus and other South American species. Both the SSAR and CNAH standard names lists have accepted these changes, though I'm sure C. King has not (j/k, C!).

Dwight Good Jul 08, 2008 07:01 PM

Here are a few I found last night here in Western Kentucky, there are Fowler's and Americans in the mix:

All toads were released after being photographed.

dg

leehafley Jul 10, 2008 01:26 PM

WOW!!!
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ball pythons
borneo ST,black,& red blood pythons
garter snake morphs easterns/checkereds/floridas/redsides
w.hognose
a few toads
1.1 super kids Memfis Lance and Linda May(co-dom)

leehafley Jul 10, 2008 01:23 PM

looks like it could be poss. het leucistic!j/k
nice pics of a brick red.

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ball pythons
borneo ST,black,& red blood pythons
garter snake morphs easterns/checkereds/floridas/redsides
w.hognose
a few toads
1.1 super kids Memfis Lance and Linda May(co-dom)

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