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Hello...

I have four auratus in a 28g bowfront tank. Two of them have died and I would like to know if this is preventable in case my other two frogs start showing symptoms.

My two dead frogs kept getting skinnier and skinnier, until they were nothing but skin and bones and eventually died. The strange part is that they never became less active or fed any less. I would feed more and more in case they just weren't getting enough food. They would eat more and more, and while my other two frogs got fatter and fatter, these two other ones kept getting smaller and smaller. I don't get it. I can only think that they must either have some sort of internal parasites (they both came from the same breeder, though almost a year apart, though they died within the same month of time). I was also thinking that perhaps I am over supplementing the fruit flies. I use indoor miner-all and reptocal. One feeding minerall, the next reptocal. Every once in a while I won't supplement. But I usually do. The main reason I use the reptocal is because the minerall doesn't have any vitamin A...so I figure if I go back and forth all have all the bases covered.

Are these symptoms of d3 poisoning?

Any help or adivise in the right direction would help in case I notice the same symptoms in my other two frogs. Hopefully not!!!

Thanks in advance!!!

Fernando

Hi, unfortunately I don't have the answer to your question, but I wanted to add that I recently had the same problem with one of my azureus. I got two at the same time about 1.5 years ago, the one kept getting fatter and fatter while the other withered away, I watched them eat and he eat and was active and they were fighting. Then one day he died as well. I am also curious to know if anyone has any answers.

-Andrea
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Andrea - Florida
2 D. azureus
1.1 A. cacatuoides
1 C. cinctus
1.0 F. catus

This sounds a lot like internal parasites, a lot of darts will show no sighs of parasites and then of all a suddn start to go downhill. Most larger frogs are fine with parasites, but since the darts are so small the parasites have a much larger impact on them. The parasites get triggered by a weakened immune system in the frog, most likey caused by stress and then multiply. They don't get any less active, and they are still eating a lot just before they die. The only problem is, they are eating for more than 1, hundreds of little worms in their body get all the good stuff from the food.

The good thing is that it can be treated, panacur is a dewormer that dr. frye of fryebrothersfrogs.com carries that will wipe out the worms. you need to send fecals off to confirm before treatment. the sucky part is, if your other two deceased frogs had it, then the two visibly healthy ones will have it too, and the viv will be contaminated and will need to be stripped and sterilized if you plan on treating the remaining frogs.

i know your two other frogs may seem healthy now, but if you've had half the frogs die of unknown causes, chances are if you don't change anything the other two will also. but if you do treat, auratus are hardy darts and should be parasite free in 6 weeks if you use panacur.

please feel free contact me at otis07_@hotmail.com if you have any more questions.
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