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you to sell Chuckwallas? Does the number you are allowed to catch or to own vary in those states?

I don't think you can catch or sell/buy them in Arizona, and maybe Nevada?

Ok I THINK this is how this works.
California
You are allowed to collect 2 chuckwallas with a fishing license and have 2 in your possesion at any time and noe more. If you breed thm I thnk you have like 14 months to get rid of the babies as gifts but are not allowed to sell them or release them to the wild. I was told by a law enforcement officer in the southern district of CA that I was allowed to sell 2 chuckwllas to a CA resident but only 2. They have to remain with in the law and they have to keep the reciept. Technically all the CA laws apply to all other states if the chucks were collected in CA via the Lacey Act but it is usually never enforced.
Arizona
You are allowed to collect 4 chuckwallas with a small game hunting license and have 4 in your possesion and no more if the chucks are collected in AZ. Again if you breed them you have so long to dispose of them but of course not into the wild. I have heard you are able to have more chucks if they were purchased from another state. Like commercially collected chucks from NV but must have proof of such. I was told by AZGF that I was not allowed to sell any cb offspring of any chucks period to any AZ resident period! They were very specific about it and told me that if it were cost effective they would prosicute me under the Lacey act if I sold cb offspring of legally collected Arizona chuckwallas anywhere in the US. Real chuckwalla nazis! LOL.
Utah
I think illegal to collect or own period. May be able to keep if they were purchased from another state such as commercially collected ones from NV but not sure.
Nevada
Allowed to collect 2 with no license for personal use. Allowed to collect as many as you want with a commercial license and sell them where ever you want except maybe CA, AZ or UT. Really wierd NV law is that you cannot collect any native NV lizard for public display that you are charging admission for. So believe it or not a NV zoo contacted me for chuckwallas. What a bunch of crap if you ask me.

This is only for ater. No restrictions on hispidus state to state and of course federal restrictions on varius.

So Tom, a seller in NV can collect all he wants and keep the chucks in crappy conditions if he wants to or even abuse them as long as he doesn't do it in a public manner, but a zoo that would likely take excellent care of one can't collect a local chuck and take great care of it in a public display. Smart! LOL!

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Whowee! It goes from bad to worse. Colorado and Texas have no rules, or we don't know? Tom, you are a walking encyclopedia! LOL How do you keep that stuff straight??

No rules fr those 2 states. It is mostly in the states they occur natually so people do not exploit them by taking hundreds from the wild.

Some of these limits may be in combination with other lizards. So if you have desert igs and chucks in AZ you can only have 4 in total or in combination. You can't have 4 chucks and 4 desert igs. Not sure how that goes in CA though.

Alrighty, then...as long as we're getting educated, Tom, what are the federal laws governing S. Varius? I might as well take advatage of you while I've got your ear! LOL

In order to purchase or sell one or more accross state lines the purchaser needs to apply for and be granted a permit for th interstate transfer of an endangered species. It is pretty much 99% you will get turned down after waiting about a year to hear. A few people have gotten the permits. I know Nick Dokai did. OR The animal can be gifted. There can be no economic value at all put on the animal. No trades etc. Then all prodgeny of that animal cannot be sold or traded. In this case a permit is not needed but there better not be any kind of paper trail that there was any compensation for that animal. It's kind of a tricky deal but it must be followed. It all must be documented and signed and agreed upon by both parties involved. I do not have permits for mine. Mine were gifted to me by the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum and reported to USFWS that I have the animals. When I did this I open up my home to inspection at any time by USFWS and I must have paperwork for all the animals I have or I will go to jail or get fined or whatever.

That is fascinating! If you breed them, do you have to keep accurate records of births/deaths? It seems that if you open your home to inspection and there are more animals than say, the mating pair you had, how would you prove that the "new" animals were captive bred by YOU? Of course, with DNA evidence having come a long way, you could probably prove it, but that would be pretty involved.

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