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Breeding size and measuring

KevinM Aug 07, 2008 10:06 AM

I have read that adult female russian torts can breed at 6 inches or larger, with adult males being around 5 to 6 inches in size. I also read where it is recommended that adult female redfoots need to be around 10 inches plus to breed. How big do russian males and females need to be to successfully breed, and how do you measure them? Do you measure along the bottom of the carapace? Do you measure from the top straight line? Case in point, I recently measured my female redfoot tort. She is only six inches along the bottom of her carapace end to end. However, I am pretty sure she would be about 8 or so inches if I measured her straight line from the top.

Thanks
KevinM

Replies (2)

bradtort Aug 07, 2008 03:50 PM

This link shows the proper way to measure length:

www.tortoisetrust.org/articles/measuring.htm

basically it is the straight-line distance from the front edge to the back edge.

As for size - in my limited experience (two breeding females) only females 6" or longer have produced eggs.

I've seen a male act interested when he was only 4" in length, but the only successful breeding I've seen was done by a 5.5" male.

GregKnoell Aug 13, 2008 05:03 PM

Straight line measurement implies that a tortoise was measured w/ the ruler/tape measure kept "straight" and not "bent" over the top of the carapace. You would do this by flipping the tortoise over and laying the ruler on the plastron and measuring only the shell length in a "straight" fashion.

A good rule to use for finding if a Russian female is large enough to breed is by weight. If they weigh 900 grams or more they are mature and large enough to breed. They do usually attain this weight at around 6 inches. But of course it's possible to have a 6 inch female that is too light to breed because she is under weight. I use the 900 gram rule as it has been the cut off for my group of females.

I have a male that has successfully reproduced at 5 inches and 450 grams. A larger heavier male should have more success with as he can hold a female down better and keep her from scurrying off.

Most imported Russian tortoises are sold labeled as adults, but are actually sub-adults. They often are 2-4 years from being large enough to breed, sometimes more.

Greg Knoell

www.TheColoredDragon.com

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