me and a friend went to orange beach alabama to find some snakes. and while we were down there we met this guy who said he has found texas horned lizards around that area! has anyone elts heard about this? and were can i find some for some photos!?!
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horned lizards in alabama
jock
Oct 30, 2008 10:56 AM
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reptoman
Nov 02, 2008 07:29 AM
We are aware of disjunct populations, but don't have that must info on them, best thing you could do is in the late spring make your way back down there with your camera. I posted on the Field Observation site and there were many responses to your question and a short discussion there after.....Alabama, Floridia, North Carolina, and other areas that have not been documented but have been mentioned in times past....
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fireside3
Nov 11, 2008 04:23 PM
This is first I have ever heard of Alabama. North Carolina definitely has a population that is documented, and I have a group member who actually collected 3 P. cornutum this summer. I have the pictures. A male and two females I believe...or the other way around. That population is very small and isolated.
The NC Herp Society knows about the location.
I have heard Florida in the past, but seen no evidence that they are there. I think many people assume this because there are Pogos in northern FL.
Alabama I would say is a long shot, though the cornutum previously inhabited western LA. and AR. in decades past, and may still be isolated pops somewhere. But, Alabama and Mississippi were the first hit with imported fire ant invasion, and that makes it less likely to be plausible.
I would tend to lean toward the opinion that the reportee maybe did not know what he was seeing. I run into people all the time, especially people outside of heavy Phrynosoma country, who are not sure what a HL really looks like. I have had people show me HLs that turned out to be everything from Spiny lizards, to Beardies, to Anoles! I have one acquaintance that contacts me all the time to come chase down on her property a "big yellow necked horny toad" that I am SURE is in fact a collared lizard....
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