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True shipping story

rainbowsrus Feb 13, 2009 05:48 PM

I received two BRB's today via Delta Dash. There was a mix-up between Delta and the shipper so instead of same day, they overnighted in Atlanta before catching the early flight here.
When I opened the box my heart sank. In the tubs they were belly up, colder than cold, lifeless and limp. No signs of movement or life whatsoever. Heat pack was barely putting out any heat at all. I thought for sure they were dead. I've pulled dead ones from litters and these were just like that except of course they were also very cold. I've received cold ones before but none any where near as cold as these two.

Still at the Delta counter, I pulled them out held them each cupped in one hand. After about 10-15 minutes I thought I could see some movement in the male but was not sure. A few minutes later he clearly took a breath, small but clear. A little while later he started moving around with very little control. Eventually once he warmed up enough he seemed to regain control and pressed himself to my warm hand.

While this was going on the female showed zero signs of life, clearly warmer than when I first picked her up but still just as limp as when I took her out. A while later after at least 20 - 30 inutes of holding her, I actually gave up and put her back in her cup. As I set the cup down I thought I saw her move. Pulled her back out and held her some more. Same sequence of recovery but at a much, much slower pace.

I have them both home in their quarantine enclosures.

Important point for all, don't assume lack of life signs means dead. Being ectotherms, they have survival skills we can only imagine. They can and do survive very cold temps, probably not for extended periods but at least for short term exposures. I know what ultimately saved them was slow gentle warming cupped in my hands. I have read that that warming too fast can be bad for cold snakes. I don't know if that's true or not, I do know that slow warming worked on these two lifeless babies. I wish I had brought a temp gun so I could know how cold they actually were, they did not feel as cold as an ice cube but pretty darn close. They were making my hands cold for the first 10-15 minutes.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (1)

kamptraining Aug 30, 2009 07:18 PM

I had a similar situation. I had a boa shipped to me this summer, UPS 'saver'. I didn't pick the shipping, it was included in the price. The 'saver' part means by the end of the next day. The snake wasn't delivered until 6pm, making it 27 hours or so in shipping. I live in the south and we are lucky to see highs in the low 90's. It's usually much worse. This being said, I thought the shipper would have added cold packs or something. When I took the boa out, she was warm to the touch.
She was alive and just looked a little stressed. The next morning I looked at her and she seemed fine. The day after that, when I looked at her, she was belly up dead. I know animals can die from too much heat, but I would have thought it would have happened sooner.
Do you think it was the long shipping period, the heat, something she had, or something I did wrong?

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