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Cherry heads or Regular?

wing May 03, 2009 09:26 PM

I'm not really familiar with Cherry heads yet and needs more guidance... so... I'm wondering if the ones on the pics are regular Northern red foots or Cherry Heads? My money is on it being regular RF.

Replies (15)

allegraf May 12, 2009 12:40 PM

Can you post pics of their heads and faces? This will help with the identification. Color alone is also not reliable, as you can see the two torts in the pic are cherryheads! Weird but true.

Allegra

wing May 13, 2009 07:17 AM

Just that I was doing my research and I learned that it's by the plastron that two are diffirentiated. Cherryheads have black plastrons while regular redfoots have yellow... Is that true?

terryo May 13, 2009 06:08 PM

Most Cherry Head's that I have seen have a red nose...like a bulb...think Rudolph.

clemmysman May 13, 2009 09:27 PM

The PLASTRON markings are the ONLY sure way to ID a Brazilian [ aka cherryhead ] redfoot tortoise! The BIG nose is common also. Head color is the least reliable.. they range from dull pink.. orange.. red-orange.. red.. to deep scarlet!

Terry

clemmysman May 13, 2009 09:32 PM

Maybe this will help.. yearlings..

wing May 14, 2009 07:00 AM

clemmysman,

I saw those pics weeks ago and I'm just confused because if you look at my first pic, it's not completely just yellow but it's not as much dark as the one on your pic. So what do I have? A Hybrid?

domalle May 15, 2009 07:39 AM

some of the cherryhead farms in Brazil also breed and market northern redfoots and yellowfoots
your little "yellow-headed cherryhead" may have mixed parentage
in its lineage

domalle May 15, 2009 07:42 AM

my last was meant for allegraf

wing May 14, 2009 06:55 AM

So are the torts on my first post a Cherry Head or Regular Redfoots? Also, since someone asked for a nose/head pic, here it is.

clemmysman May 14, 2009 11:02 AM

Wing I can't tell a nose [ that small ] from a 'profile'.. get me one like I showed - directly above.

The term "cherryhead" is nonsense.. they are only from different locations. And what separates those locations? Mountains.. rivers.. or "boundary lines"?

A hybrid is crossing 2 different species. An integrate is crossing sub-species. And since part of Brazil IS North of the Amazon we get integrates often. A G. carbonaria is a redfoot.. regardless of where it comes from. The jury is still out on whether they are sub-species from "North".. "East".. or "South". And what are we going to do with those that exist "outside" South America? - ( introduced by man.. you know.. a tortoise's best friend )

So to answer your Q?'s -

You have redfoot tortoises with "Brazilian" blood in them.

Terry
Turtletary.com
Cherryheads

wing May 14, 2009 12:50 PM

Tell me if I got this right: Brazilian Red foots are cherry heads, correct? So when you say I have a "RF with a Brazilian blood", that means my RF's are offspring of two RF's from different locales? So I have a regular RF with a cherry head blood?

clemmysman May 14, 2009 01:24 PM

Go to the link in my signature and open it and scroll down to the email I received from a redfoot breeder friend.. explaining about the alleged 'cherryhead'.

Terry

wing May 14, 2009 01:12 PM

Here is the top view (the one on the right)

allegraf May 14, 2009 03:18 PM

It looks like a cherryhead with that x on the nose.

domalle May 15, 2009 07:49 AM

Terry is right.
when you say "Brazilian" redfoot,
you are generally referring to cherryheads
but there are typical northern redfoots
in the northern part of Brazil -
they are in form like the other northerns:
Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana

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