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Haven't done this in a long time, I'm a very rust, so the pic might not come out. here goes.
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trying this again. Yes! I've figured it out

I've done an internet search & have found it closely resembles a Carpenter Frog (Rana virgatipes). is this correct?

Where did you find it? It's not a carpenter frog but without knowing where in the world this frog was found it's really hard to say what it is. I don't know the species off the top of my head but if you could narrow down the location it would help me get started.

I'm in Central Florida, the City of Winter Haven. I've done a little more searching & It closely resembles a greenhouse frog (Eleutherodactylus planirostris). What do you think? here's another pic

thanks
junior

Based on that last photo I can see why you thought it might have been a Carpenter Frog. I think you are right about it being a Greenhouse Frog.

The reason I was able to rule out carpenter frog (even though I am not too familiar with that species) is that the frog you posted as a number of characteristics not typical of the Rana (now Lithobates) genus. The hind feet are not webbed at all and the tips of the toes expand into little discs, much like a chorus or tree frog.

Using other characteristics it is possible to rule out every option except the Greenhouse Frog. In Florida your frogs are broken up into a number of distinct groups. It's not a toad or a treefrog. Looking at various characteristics I can tell that it's not a cricket frog (Acris), chorus frog (Pseudacris), or true frog (Rana). The only option left is Greenhouse Frog, as you thought.

I read that one of the few frogs that skip the tadpole stage. Which makes sense because there are about 15 of them in the hole where the manual cutoff valve for my sprinkler system is. It's damp, but there are no puddles of water there. I misplaced the key to my sprinkler system box, now I have to turn the water on manually & in the evening when I turn on the system I see them jumping around down there & it eases my nerves cause I know when I see them there will be no spiders.

I find them here in N.Fl.Really nice color when young and not strest.I hope they dont get eat'en up by all the Cuban frogs here. When did Rana change to Lithobates? All Rana? Who's work? I'm a Rana Fan.What's up! WHY ! Maybe some Asian sp. Lithobates=Stone Bats! LOL for Scientist! Vic.....pic Albino Stone Bats.(Lithobates catesbeiana.)

It's quite a lengthy paper, but the linked journal article below was the basis for many of the recently adopted changes in frog taxonomy. Rana --> Lithobates, Bufo --> Anaxyrus, etc. This only applies to new world frogs. To sum the paper up in a sentence: A number of genera shared between the old and new world were looked at using the latest genetic techniques and it was determined that in many instances, the new world frogs are different enough from the old world frogs that the two groups aught to be split into separate genera. I don't think it will stop here -- a little more work on the wood frog and its relation to a group of similar frogs in asia may result in Lithobates being broken up into several more groups. Wood Frogs on their own, Bulls, Greens, Minks, etc in a genus, the leopard frogs in a genus, and so on. Not all agencies have adopted the suggested nomenclature due to the constant back and forth nature of taxonomy but I think most agencies will in the near future.
The amphibian tree of life. Bulletin of the AMNH ; no. 297

WOL! I must have an eye for Taxonomy.I've always though the Asian Rana was wrong. Head shape,the most important aspect never seemed that close! Oh well,I'm just a hobbyest with frogs. Dont get me started on Manouria,the Mt.Tortoises a whole other forum.Thanks. I just spouted the English def.of the new name for fun.I know these things change over time and I always wonder why.I bet the hybred forum must rattle some people.Maybe all the rat,king,gopher snakes were Taxed wrong to begin with and they "arnt" hybreds,but all the same genus to begin with. Now we have Ause-Afro WomaBalls! I know of Hyla green X Barking intergrade in Nature. You see any frog Hybreds in nature? Vic ps I'm a little nervice about Asian frogs coming in the Pet trade.

haha, yeah, "one who walks on rocks" is what I've been told. I'd love to know how that came about...

Many biologists in asia are now referring to their species similar to our wood frog as being in the genus "Hylarana", formerly this group was in Rana just like all the others.

Check out these asian frogs, now in Hylarana:

Australian Wood Frog:
http://i.pbase.com/u32/gehyra/large/31476499.Woodfrog.jpg

Gunther's Frog
http://www.greenpower.org.hk/new/river/images/part2/16.jpg