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Forgive my Stupidity please!

Atlas511 Sep 14, 2009 01:49 PM

I owned some normal sand boas about 4 years ago and ended up trading them. Well my fiance fell in love with them at a show and I ended up with some lol!

here the questions.
is a 32qt tub suitable for adults?
can someone ramble off all the genetic morphs?

and forgive me for this one (im a retic guy) I saw some pics of sand boas coming out of and egg>?!?!? please elaborate for me!

thanks guys and I guess im back!

Replies (8)

CBH Sep 14, 2009 02:58 PM

A 32qt box will work great for adults. I keep mine in 28 qt boxes. Just make sure you have an area with adequate temps (Warm side ~ 95F, cool side ~75-80F).

As far as morphs go-

Albino (paradox and typical)
Anery
Snow (paradox and typical)
rufescens (stripes, tiger, granite, normalish, solid brown)
hypo
reduced pattern
dodoma
flame
high orange

I am sure I missed some so feel free to chime in....

As far as the eggs go. So far 2 species of sand boa are known to produce eggs.... Eryx muelleri and Eryx jayakari.

For more info check out - www.kingsnake.com/sandboa/sandboa.html

-Chris
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Atlas511 Sep 14, 2009 03:49 PM

how do the rufescens play into the Kenyans? is there any way for you to relate that to retics? lol? like sula or the retics or local specific?

thanks! please post pics!

CBH Sep 14, 2009 05:56 PM

I do not know anything about retic morphs so I cannot make that analogy.

Depending on what taxonomy you follow the "rufescens" can be classified as a separate species, a subspecies or a locale. Personally, I am leaning toward subspecies or locale. There is obvious morphological differences but there are also lots of similarities.

Just my 2 cents...

-Chris
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Atlas511 Sep 14, 2009 09:39 PM

thats two more cents than me!

but how did a codom stripe come to be? do I understand that correctly? ruf x kenyan = 50% stripe and then you can breed that stripe to what ever you wany and get 50% stripes?

CBH Sep 14, 2009 10:20 PM

Well, from what others have produced, stripes seem to produce stripes. I am not sure on the exact % of stripes though. If the stripe is a codom thing than we would expect a 1:2:1 ratio of solid brown : stripe : normalish looking offspring with a stripe x stripe crossing. I know some people were working on that cross (Scott ??) but I do not know if it has been completed....

-Chris
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vjl4 Sep 15, 2009 08:27 AM

Without the numbers its hard to say exactly what is happening, but it could also be like the Tiger carpet. It seems to be a single gene that produces striping but other genes have a strong influence on how well striped it is.

Numbers would be fun

Vinny
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eryx4 Sep 16, 2009 12:06 AM

ill be trying it out with a number of animals that are different percentages of rufescens this year. im curious if the percentage will make a difference in offspring appearance and ratios of appearance. thanks, scott erycine1@aol.com

mrkent Sep 16, 2009 02:50 PM

Not stupid, just asking questions. Nothing wrong with that!!
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