This male was just graduated to pinkies. Colors are washed out in the photo, he is smoking orangish red on his sides/ventrals.
Scott
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Eastern Albino flame holdback
scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 08:45 PM
Replies (21)
scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 08:47 PM
This is the second snow red sided in the world (Jeff Benfer produced the first one).
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 08:53 PM
hypo ?? This girl has lightened up a lot in the past month, she could be hypo ? Opinions are welcome on this. This girl is extremely wild, which is why the photos are poor.
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 08:58 PM
These have colored up immensely in the past 2 months. Of the 12 albinos produced from the double het Carteret cty/Myrtle Beach erythristics, about half ended up being normal albinos, 4 were low end erythristic albinos and 2 are flaming high end ery albinos (this one and # 11). The pic is washed out, these are extremely orange/purple/red in color and are really cool when seen in person.
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 09:00 PM
This is a "low end" erythristic albino eastern male.
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 09:07 PM
This is my favorite erythristic albino imo, he is a rich orange color with lavender and pink mixed in.
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 09:09 PM
This female is a slow grower, just now starting to put some size on. Really like her pattern. Got her from Joe Peck.
Scott
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scott_felzer
Oct 03, 2009 09:13 PM
Had a long discussion w/ Jeff Benfer on this girl's morphage, will breed her to a normal next year and if axanthics are produced, it will prove her out to be the world's first blizzard.
Scott
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boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 11:08 PM
Scott,
blizzard is the best discriptive term for now, but I hope maybe we can come up with something else to call this if it does prove out to be one copy axanthic and one copy anerythristic, plus two copies albino, because blizzard which is a term borrowed from corns (amel and charcoal, double recessive combo), is really a different genotype and all recessive genes, whereas the axanthic plains gene is a dominant gene to wild type, but based on previous breedings appears to be a co-dominant allele to anerythristic at the same loci. There is still a lot of work and breeding trials to be done to characterize the relationship of these 3 plains morphs: axanthic, anery, albino....not just how they relate to wild type genes, but also how they relate to each other and in combinations. This is very intersting and may prove to be quite unique.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:51 PM
nice, I hope that proves out to be genetic, it will look good in albino
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
asnakelovinbabe
Oct 04, 2009 01:23 AM
oh myyy. I MUST have one of those.
boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:49 PM
n/p
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
mikefedzen
Oct 06, 2009 03:44 PM
those erythristic albinos are awesome Scott.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com
scott_felzer
Oct 09, 2009 06:09 PM
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boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:48 PM
OK this one looks like mine, not as pretty as that other one you posted, still nice though.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:47 PM
wow Scott that one is way more colorful than the one I produced, that is a fantastic looking animal...orange and purple can't beat that combo.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:40 PM
Scott,
looks like some erythristic blood influence to me??? shrug.
based on the red/orange on the top side.
Is there known erythristic in the background bloodline? as is the case to my knowledge in most flames at this point?
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
TomDickinson
Oct 04, 2009 08:13 AM
Where did it come from?....Parents?
scott_felzer
Oct 04, 2009 09:03 PM
Jeff & Tom,
This was produced from the original Myrtle Beach female bred to a high red flame het for anerythristic. Can't wait to see what she looks like as an adult.
Scott
TomDickinson
Oct 05, 2009 05:12 AM
Definitely looks like the most complete cross between the two I have seen.
boxienuts
Oct 06, 2009 07:51 AM
Yep, that explains it doesn't it, being that flame and erythristic are both polygenetic behaving traits, and erythristic seems to be even more polygenetic and harder to pass on to offspring with out diluting and achieving the same phenotype look as the original parents....this is that 1 in 100 snake, great example of what snake to select out a be "THE" breeder. Now take that and add ablino... thats what we are all wanting to see when we open that tub in the spring, solid neon orange top to bottom, lol.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
boxienuts
Oct 03, 2009 10:45 PM
Scott,
She is looking very nice. I think you would agree, thus far these are the nicest, cleanest, most pigment and patternless snows ever produced.... in any species of snake for that matter. I can still see all the organs and the heart beating and what was eaten recently by holding them up in the light, they are practically see thru... and the eyes are way cool, clear pink glass.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
