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I think my ornate is dead. He spent several days lying in the same position, never moving a muscle This is not unusual. It had gone on long enough that I became worried, though. Ipicked him up, and he was limp. He did not respond at all. His eyes were closed.

I moved him. Again he didn't move for several days. I shined a 160W lamp on him for several hours. Nothing happened.

I am fairly sure that he's gone, but this is a reptile. How do I know that he's not just deeply brumating? It's a long shot, I know. But for my own peace of mind, I want to be sure.

One sure way to tell is that soon after its demise the
limbs will stiffen as will the tail soon after.

If he is still limp as you say, chances are poor but it's
possible that it is at death's door. If it is still alive,
the possibility is slim to none that it will improve from
this poor state you described. If it is, you might see
some very shallow and timely breathing by observing
just behind the front legs to see if the area expands and
then slowly deflates. It is hard to see as the air intake
will be minimal and very slow. Often you think you can
see the tinniest movement but it's mostly wishful thinking.

If you wait long enough the odor of death will let you
know soon enough.

If you are still not at all sure, take it a vet as a last
resort if this will give you peace of mind and closure.

This is a very sad post and it was really difficult for me
to reply.

Sorry,
John