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Hypo eastern lost forever...............

asnakelovinbabe Dec 29, 2009 08:23 PM

I don't think I have ever had, or ever will have to swallow a larger lump in my throat while posting a thread than right now.

My hypo eastern garter snake, the jaw dropping one-of-a-kind all-over pale snake, is dead. No descendants, and so the gene is forever lost. This was the most prized animal in my entire collection. I found her myself and could not wait for the day I would finally get some viable offspring from her. Now it will never happen. If I had to choose just one snake to keep and sell all the rest it would have been her. Fate truly has dealt me a cruel hand!

I'd noticed over the past 2 months or so that she had taken to crawling around with a slight tilt to her head. It wasn't all the time, and it was so subtle that at times I told myself I was seeing things. Also, some of her facial scales around her nose appeared to be slightly deforming. Well, I began taking my snakes off feed a few weeks ago and I turned off mostly all of the lights in the snakeroom, as well as decreased the ambient temp to around 70 as opposed to 80. Sunday night I noticed while doing some maintenance my hypo struggled a bit to take a breath! I examined her, she simply seemed to be taking deeper breaths than normal. No popping or wheezing, no extra fluid or mouth gaping, no swollen lung or arched neck, as would be a typical full blown respiratory infection. I put her into a TLC tank with lots of heat and left her be. I've seen this happen on rare occasion and if caught in time a minor respiratory distress can often be reversed and dissapear overnight if caught extremely early. So yesterday she looked better already in the morning, and today she seemed to be doing very well before I left for work, but when I got home she was upside down, lifeless.

I've lost the most important snake I own. The only damned snake in my entire collection of over 100 to have an issue. It's about driven me to quit snakes altogether!

Replies (6)

asnakelovinbabe Dec 29, 2009 08:25 PM

while all the other females I brumated and did not breed last season still ovulated and dropped slugs, this one never even ovulated! Meaning even if my male HAD copulated with her, her body did not produce any eggs for him to fertilize!!!!

boxienuts Dec 30, 2009 08:39 PM

Shannon,
Sorry for your loss, I know the feeling of loosing a prized animal, it stinks, but I hope this won't curb your enthusiasm for garter breeding, let alone drive you to quit snake altogather, remember time heals, you are a huge asset to the garter community. Again sorry for your loss I know how much that snake meant to you.
Cheer up my garter loving friend, all is not lost, you still have an incredible collection with lots of future potiential.
You still have that cool green backed flame that you caught don't you? I think that will be a great project for you to focus on now, among all the other cool stuff you have going on, not to mention your photography is second to none.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

asnakelovinbabe Jan 01, 2010 07:12 PM

Thanks Jeff

I of course, will not be quitting snakes... ever! I do still have my flame and She is doing quite well. She's a slow grower and it kinda sucks because she's picky with food but she's easily tripled in size since I found her so we are making progress there. I hope to acquire a male with orange/red coloration from the same farm for a locality specific flame line. Breeding her into any other type of flame, or even to another locality of eastern would just destroy her unique look. I am confident that there's not another flame out there like her... with the blue/green back and the POPPING RED sides. She's getting some color on her cheeks... just a tad but it's there where it was not before. This past summer was terrible, we only saw 6 snakes... it was cold, and rainy while we were there. I think i can safely slate her for NEXT season... she's still a bit small for this one and I won't breed her to anything but a potter county male anyway. I was very VERY distraught over losing my hypo though... In fact for the past few days I simply stepped away from the computer and the snakes and just took a little mental break. I just picked up a brand new full size fridge for hibernation. I also just received my Xmas gift which was an 09 male albino FL banded water snake... Thing is smokingggg!

boxienuts Jan 01, 2010 10:12 PM

I wish I had the time to go snake hunting, we have lots of garters around here and in my backyard, might get lucky and find something interesting if I looked enough I guess, I might try this spring if I can find the time, last spring I was so busy at work and putting in long hours and working weekends that was an impossiblity.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

dekaybrown Dec 31, 2009 09:22 AM

So sorry Shannon, I know how you are feeling all too well just now.

my condolences.
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Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
Thamnophis US
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mattcbiker Jan 03, 2010 05:28 PM

Sorry about your loss of a favorite snake. The same thing happened to me with my favorite king pictured below. It drove me out of the hobby and I sold off half of my snakes except 3, and I am just getting back into it again.

I went on a weeklong fishing trip, and I came down and he was dead curled up inside his log looking perfect.

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